such a let down .... thanks for posting real results and accurate data ... this **** sucks!!!

 

What's funny is that is what we expected. They keep pushing dates back farther and farther.

Such as waste of time and thought.

 

aftermarket it is .... I didn't wanna go this route ... looks like 2nd ecu and tune

 

where do you plan on getting the second ecu

 

They're just waiting for our warranties to end, CLEARLY this stage kit breaks ****.

 

Well that's not the right statement. Our warranties don't end for a very long time.

 

stage kit isnt out yet though, is it? =D

i'm just kidding....

 

BUT SERIOUSLY ...

 

seriously ECU's are frickn expensive.........
i priced one here @ my cast and was looking round 800 bucks

im going to wait, im fine
im planning on it being next years treat......faster ride

 

so I talked to my service guy today about "aftermarket parts" He tells me kids come in here all the time with the #4 cylinder fried on the old SS and they can tell they had aftermarket parts cause they would grind down the mount for the pulley to fit and tried putting the original pulley back. He told me that the T/C has the ability to keep track of any codes thrown and will save them to date. This is when an engine light comes on due to something happening to the engine like maybe a missfire and then it goes away. If you bring the car in and they scan it, they will see that CEL that was recorded on it. This also goes with swapping the PCM and using a tuner to flash it and flash it back. They know by my house and they will use it against me for warranty work, so I opt to wait for this GM kit or just wait till warranty is gone.

 

amen brotha

 

Sounds like a good scare tactic for a dealership to use.

 

Exactly what i was thinking, and my mom has special glasses that can tell if i lie...

 

eyes in the back of her head

Oh and she used to work for the CIA running lie detector tests.

 

Man with the way GM is acting, I seriously wouldnt even consider risking it.... You best be squeeky clean if you have an engine problem.

 

I'll wait it out. It will be worth it in the long run.

 

agreed. if you switch the ecu you should be fine. there is a little black box in the tc's that tell how many times you no lift shift and use launch controll within the last 1000 miles but the nls shouldnt void anything unlike nissian and launch controll does but who in there right mind uses lauch controll???

 

What are you talking about and where is the documentation about this?

 

Not sure how accurate that can be, what about the misses?

 

I am wondering the same thing. I have heard that as more of a rumor.

I thought it only logged very recent events and took a snapshot at the time of failure.

 

That's the "black box" with a sub-1 minute memory that constantly records over itself every minute or so. That's so if you wreck the cops can use it to help find out what happened the last minute up to the wreck.

It's a limited capacity box only for use by law enforcement. Could the dealer access it?... Maybe... but it's still only the last minute before you wrecked/turned off the car.

 

In other news,

I have been watching the CARB site where they have posted up announcements when the last few kits have been approved for use in California.

There still has been nothing about a kit for the 2009 SS/TC, the 2008 coincidentally was approved months ago with the HHR and Solstice.

Also the Camaro, recently had an air intake approved

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

You can search through the "Executive Orders" (approvals) at that link.

GM is D-126-1 through D-126-28

I think the other approvals for the LNF upgrade were around 23-24

 

you could be right but i herd it is the same as what is in the older gtr's and it records sertain performance activities like nls and launch control , speed, rpm's, and im sure i saw a post a few months back about some1's warrante being voided due to this.

 

Wow, your dealership actually threatened to void your warranty when you haven't even done anything yet? What kind of loyalty are they trying to build here? I get that maybe they are just trying to warn you in case but they definitely are coming off as the heavy in this situation...

I don't know if you have any other choice for dealerships but if mine started threatening me because of a few questions I asked, I'd be dealing with someone else in a heart beat.

 

Whatever the case, I'm waiting. I'm not going to try and test the waters to see what I can get away with.

Hearing this "3rd Quarter" stuff is a bit of a letdown but there's nothing I personally can do about how long it's taking so NO BIG DEAL!

When it gets here, it gets here. I'll just be excited when it FINALLY does.