Nice this is great news. Well I better start building my motor now. What kind of support mods do I need whould you say? I already plan on buying ZZP transmission this summer.

 

Zzp you guys killing me here I might wait another year before I do my build to see what else u guys come up with. Great job guys.

 

Building the internals is going to depend on how much HP you want to make. If you want to make 400whp, you can probably run safely for a decent amount of time on the stock internals. If you want 500whp, then you start building up the bottom end.

 

I wanna know when this is going to hit the market...

I hope it's before may

Oh and as always great job! ZZP

 

Matt: Think you might try for a twin scroll version at some point?

 

being a stock-styled exhaust housing I would assume the z254 is twin-scroll, yes?

 

Are you suggesting this isn't a good mod for daily driving?

 

ya couldnt come out with this b4 all the tax money is gone huh.

 

I think it'd be able to dd if you had to. but I'd have a back-up car just to be safe. and as far as building the bottom end, just get the turbo and tune it down until you feel like it's not enough then you could go ahead with the internals. IMO 400whp is plenty for the street lol.

 

Nothing wrong at all with a high HP daily, just stay out of it lol

 

Nope theres nothing wrong with it, I think having a 400-500whp monster as a dd is badass

Just make sure you have money set aside for tires

 

Not that it matters but I read in a magazine that it stood for "Engineered For Racing"

Anyways Im pumped to see this coming out as a direct bolt on so soon. Thats a brand new turbo. Nice work.

 

Pretty sure the twin scroll EFR's are not available yet, but from the photos there is no way to confirm if they split the turbine inlet chamber to match the manifold.

 

I can see the threads now. Why am i running a 13 @ 130mph lol awesome stuff zzp now go bolt this on an lsj and tell us the numbers!

 

Your right, you do sound like a dick. How is a 2871 putting down 400whp minimal gains? I'd say thats a considerable gain for a bolt-on. Lets not forget that BNR has been the only one to offer a true bolt on solution. Now you guys come along with your direct replacement turbo and act like your the only game in town. You cant really compare the two. Obviously the EFR is in a different league and I understand you were just responding to a previous post but no need to belittle another companies work by saying that BNR 'simply' squeezes a larger wheel into the stock housing. You guys tried to do what BNR did and abandoned the whole idea.

That being said, your work on the LNF is great! We now have cams and a ported head thanks to you. And now this EFR turbo that you guys have is awesome and a HUGE upgrade for anyone looking for tons of HP. The way I see it, the LNF community now has an option out there for everyones needs and goals for their car. For crazy power guys they have your whole s256 turbo kit or now this direct bolt on EFR turbo. And for the middle of the ground guys(like myself) we've got either flavor of the BNR turbos.

ZZP is all about going fast and taking it to the max. I get that. I just wish you didnt knock on another companies work while promoting your own.
I mean this sincerely, keep up the good work ZZP! Looking forward to seeing the results of this project

 

am i they only one who thinks 400-500 hp is stupid for a fwd car on the street?

 

HP isn't everything if you can't put it to the ground. Like the 500whp Honda Civic I raced...

 

Its prolly minimal considering there are stock turbo guys hitting 360whp and zzp has made almost 400 on the stocker.

 

Its not stupid if you like going fast.

I put power to the ground just fine. Its called dr's.

 

I'm not sure where you are coming from with some of this. For one, when did we try to do what BNR did and abandon the project? I'm not sure who told you that, but we never did anything like that at all. Second, I never belittled them by any means. I simply said that what they are offering is not comparable to what we just built. It needed to be said, so people don't talk about them as similar mods, because they are not. On another note, who put down 400whp on the BNR? Is there a thread? I'd like to read about it. Thanks.

 

powerband. all about the powerband. Peak horsepower is just a number

 

lol, looks like it was both-

“EFR” Name
Now that you have read the “EFR” letters a few times, you might wonder
what the letters stand for or where the series name came from.
Believe it or not, the process of determining the name was one of the
more controversial elements of the program, but that just shows how
much passion was put into this project by the team. Originally the
name was derived from a contest entry held amongst BorgWarner’s
Asheville North Carolina facility (where the product is engineered and
produced) employees. EFR2 stood for Earth Friendly Race Ready series
of turbochargers. The name struck a chord because it aligned with
BorgWarner’s strategy of being a technology leader in reducing fuel
consumption and harmful emissions but also shows that they are
well-heeled in the performance and racing scene. Many of the features
in this product line will also migrate towards our OEM customers,
especially those seeking the highest level of performance, efficiency, and
feature content. Many of these customers are striking a healthy
balance between powerful (fun) engines, yet also achieving extremely
clean emissions and low fuel consumption. The name was later
shortened to “Earth Friendly Racing” for a simpler look. After revealing
the name within the organization and with some external advisors, it
was apparent that tying “Earth Friendly” and “Racing” didn’t go over
well with many people. While many of the racing leagues are trying to
produce a more “green” image, the vast majority of the performance
market doesn’t make a connection, at least not yet.
The EFR acronym remained the official name but it now more aligns with
the true intent of the program. To find the name we needed only look
back to the reason we started this project; to give the performance
market a turbocharger that was engineered from a clean sheet with
them in mind. Through the course of doing the work, we came to
appreciate that the name “Engineered For Racing” (a.k.a EFR Series)
would be known as the turbocharger that redefined the market’s
expectations.

 

subd

 

theyre availible. i could buy one at a local shop here, (Full race). theyre a lil higher in cost but worth it imo. and with the stock manifold being a twinscroll manifold i would think this bolt on replacement would be also.

 

i understand the more power you have the faster you go, but for ME i would rather have a balanced out car that handles great than a fwd monster that roasts tires and have to use drs all the time.

but then again, this was my street/daily driver toy. i have an ls1 to make power on and use drs all the time lol