Let's not get into the habit of claiming that a ZZP part won't work because a different company couldn't figure out how to do it. If we took that approach, the 3800 market would have went nowhere because Thrasher claimed that all sorts of things didn't work or couldn't be done. We didn't listen to them and we shaped the market into an easy to mod affordably platform. We've been doing the same in the Ecotec market as well. Years ago, GM gave up on installing girdles in the block because it wasn't working for them. It became common information that you need to re-sleeve any motor that is going to make a decent amount of power. After watching the majority of these sleeved motor projects fail for others, we developed a girdle system that costs less and has proven more reliable. It's what we do and will continue to do. People might as well get used to it because we aren't leaving this market any time soon.

 

Yes, you said that the other type would work much better.
Yes, I answered it, stating that egts have been tested to back this up.
Your question was answered long ago. Move on.

It has been proven? Please show me this LNF running 4 extra injectors reliably and making big power. (other than mine)

 

Lmfao.... I said I could see the other type working better, more reliable, and ect. Did I say it was better? No..

You didn't answer my question you just stated egts were fine. Ok I'm not asking for for your word I'm asking for proof...and did I state on the lnf... No .. I just said it has been proven, 4 is better then one. I assume your gonna say , well how can i prove its better on a lnf... Well put it like this .. the flow of air depends on the flow of fuel. As stated by another. Member its been proven not to work as efficient or as reliable as.making another set of four or to the vehicles amount of cylinders... I'm not saying your system doesn't work. Because it works to a point . meaning each individual cylinder and ect.

 

I really wish you would stick to supporting TTR and keep your c****y worthless non-value added comments out of the ZZP thread. Just my opinion

 

both Baldturbofreak and Greaseyjockey (james), run their GT35 turboed LNF engines with 4 port injectors for about 2-3 years now. They're not known here in the cobalt forum since they used to be active at solstice/sky forums. Last time I talked to greaseyjockey, he was around 450whp.........before he decided to upgrade his internals. I dont know now what power he is getting

I believe both are using stock LE5 injectors/fuel rail using megasquirt to control them.

 

My nonvalued comments. Bwahahahahah . Go cry somewhere else... [/B]

 

and sell some tow hooks off ur website, oh wait u don't have one


in for results though lol.

 

I'm all for having an opinion but when you're a vendor, you might consider keeping yourself out of internet battles. It (in my eyes) makes you look bad. That goes to ALL the vendors involved in this thread.

 

Dude you joined 4 months ago And have no idea how things roll here

 

Still, after all the debate, I would really want an answer, maybe you have been running the kit for a year but is your car a daily driver? I'm really asking about reliability in the long run and the abuse it gets as a daily driver. I say this because here in Puerto Rico, it's really hot and just getting a little more heat to one cylinder than the other could end in a broken engine. So, tells us numbers or something.

 

I can read.

 

Hahaha

 

Baldturbofreak had a account here a few people bought his k04+ turbo when the lnf cobalt first came out then he fell off the map here.

 

I think its funny that people question ZZP when they are clearly the leader of the LNF platform. I have yet to see another company run 10s in an LNF so everyone quit bitching at them.

 

That don’t mean you comprehend what you are reading

 

Are you attempting to rile me up, insult my intelligence or just be an asshat? Trust me, I am no idiot but I am far from the smartest person I know. Why are you attacking me? I comprehend just fine.

 

oh ok!

I know he's main focus now are subbies......

he still has his solstice gxp...............but its too sad he left the LNF platform.

 

No i think James is a cool guy in general and have spoken to him on the phone once. But i have been on for a while know and can clearly see how he posts thing up when zzp posts something. And it gets lame to see him and then all of a sudden all the cars he tunes follow the same boat.


Gets old. Why would anyone doubt what zzp puts out. I just dont get it. Apparently James is smarter than the hole R & D department of ZZP.

Like i said i like that James tunes the community but the nutswingers he has following gets old after a while. I have a tought time with James because of the way he acts and posts on these forums. Sure he is a cool guy in general though.

Hope this helps and clears things up a little for ya

 

Well IMO with no bias involved he's right in his question for results, and questions have merit. If a cylinder is gettin more fuel than another then that can lead to a problem. Not that many of us don't run it like that to begin with, but if you're pushing the car to the limit then yes it does matter.

You act like you wouldn't support byt if he were to question the same thing. Lets get real.

Yes ZZP is the **** undoubtedly, but that doesn't mean you should blindly follow. One should NEVER blindly follow.

 

Aren't you in effect doing the same thing here but in ZZP's corner? I think for myself and I was being sincere when I said that James brought up a good question. He did, plain and simple.

I think all companies should be questioned. No one is above being questioned about the products they make. Hell, AMS is probably quadruple ZZPs size and have probably done more in their respective communities (NOT a shot at ZZP, just illustrating a point) and I would not hesitate for one second to question something they bring to market if I didn't understand it or wanted to know more about it. There is nothing wrong with that.

Really sorry for the off topic rant. If you want to respond, please PM me so we don't clutter this up more.

 

No honestly i would not if BYT did the same, because i know he def dont have enough experience with it. And either does James. If you knew some of the emails james send out you would not trust everything he says either. He works out of a little garage doing tunes and upgrades for you guys. But he is gods gift to the LSJ and LNF community in all his nutswingers eyes.

END RANT

Back on Topic here. I am done with this thread. Go ZZP.

 

both ZZP and Chevycobaltss3 have been good to me.......so I'm not taking any sides.

their fight is their fight.....and I don't want to be involved whatsover.

I asked questions to LEARN ............and not to doubt or put down a product.

just like the s1 cams w/ big fuel lobe. I asked tons of questions thru pms and posts. Once I'm educated and satisfied.........then I buy a certain product

Hopefully, we all LEARN to advance this LNF platform.............and MOVE on...........and get along!

 

amen brotha!

 

As if byt doesn't work out of a garage either? LOL. I don't see your point. Sorry. Again, GET REAL.
Exactly how do you know what experience James does or doesn't have? There has only been 2 people I entrusted my cars tune to, and it runs strong 3 years later, and I don't wait months to get a puny revision .
Get off your high horse.