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Old 01-08-2008, 08:15 PM
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stages?

i have a few questions with the stages. if you get stage 2, with comes with the stage 2 and stage 1. what about the stage 3??what does that include? now in regards to warrenty, what if i do it at my shop with my licenced guy and have all the paper work for doing the work??
if anyone can help me out with that, that would be great!
also, in meadowvale mississauga where are the meets and when do they usually happen???
thanks again, Chris
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Stage upgrade also fixes some reliability issues in the new tunes. (Although as already mentioned it tends to run rich)

That is your best shot at selling your dad.

BTW, 2.9 on a stock tune isn't the best idea to start with. You'd be much better with the Stage 2 running a 2.9.

Also, you could go with bigger injectors and HPTuners for less money. But keeping the warranty you'd be better with a dealer installed Stage 2. But, they may object to warranty stuff even so (depending on dealer), with the 2.9 on it. Stock is quite a bit bigger and the Stage 2 pulley is a little bigger.
Old 01-09-2008, 01:25 AM
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10K miles on my stage 2 and not one issue due to the kit .
Old 01-09-2008, 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the input guys I didn't know this thread was still alive much less stickey'd.
I went ahead and said screw it and took a day off from work and had a local dealer install it.
Have had it for a little over a month now and already went Nate's 2.9.
I love this car all over again!
Old 01-11-2008, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Werewolf SS
Thanks for the input guys I didn't know this thread was still alive much less stickey'd.
I went ahead and said screw it and took a day off from work and had a local dealer install it.
Have had it for a little over a month now and already went Nate's 2.9.
I love this car all over again!
Can you run the 2.9 pulley with the S2 tune safely????
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Whoever stickied this thread should be shot because the title of this thread is illogical.

In the words of "PINKS" Please, read carefully:

STOCK IS ALWAYS MORE RELIABLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU DO TO YOUR CAR.

It doesn't matter what you do to your car. If you want it to be absolutely reliable, leave it alone.

I found out the hard way by melting my #4 piston on a 2.5 inch pulley.

Just my .02

-Vincent.
Old 01-14-2008, 12:21 AM
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2.5 pulley is asking for trouble. Your spinning the **** out of the eaton........You better have some major cooling mods or you can say goodbye to #4
Old 01-14-2008, 03:38 PM
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Stage 2 will be in the mail in 2 days......can't wait >.<
Old 01-16-2008, 08:48 PM
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does anyone know if lightning force injectors are good quality injectors?
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V-man is a tard
Old 01-17-2008, 06:22 AM
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You guys are talking about 27-32 mpg? Wtf is wrong with mine? Haha I'm getting 21 stock. Wtf is going on here....
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Originally Posted by Vman81
Whoever stickied this thread should be shot because the title of this thread is illogical.

In the words of "PINKS" Please, read carefully:

STOCK IS ALWAYS MORE RELIABLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU DO TO YOUR CAR.

It doesn't matter what you do to your car. If you want it to be absolutely reliable, leave it alone.

I found out the hard way by melting my #4 piston on a 2.5 inch pulley.

Just my .02

-Vincent.
ok running a 2.5 is stupid. even with cooling mod's your still over revving the HEATON..
and as far as MPG i was not known for a light foot but i saw an increase once i went stage 2.(275+MPG on usually 10 gallon's cause id all ways keep that 2 gallon reserve and then some and some time's all most 400 on a purely highway trip) but my problem was the dumb ass saturn tech's that didnt know how to work on a LSJ in a saturn and the local chevy dealer hasnt dealt with the SS/SC really at all.. so after 4k miles on stage 2 with bolt on's i was pushing 19 lb's of boost and had a bad misfire. which mean's it was clogged cat/fried PCM. or both. and since niether GMPP dealer had dealt with it my car sat for over a month at the dealer.. and still didnt run right
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Talking

I installed mine with 8,000 miles on it and now have 60,000 + with no problems at all.
Old 02-03-2008, 07:50 PM
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My fuel mileage got horrible with stage 2 compared to stock, but I'm also running pig freaking rich with the crappy Gm tune...I was getting close to 37mpg stock at times, now the highest I've seen on the highway is about 32.
I foul my plugs all the time, even fouled them once so badly the car wouldn't even start.
So aside from the tune, its ok.
Old 02-03-2008, 07:53 PM
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pretty rich tune. egts are high i would not suggest high speed runs back to back and so on
Old 02-09-2008, 10:32 PM
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our stage 2 car has 20,000 on it and runs great, no issues at all yet. (although it doesn't really like the cold, but thats cause it doesn't see the cold) It does get better gas milage then the regular one. It's the one we take trips with.

By the way, some things that you change from stock can improve reliability. (I am not claiming the stage 2 does)

If your dad is like my dad, tell him stage 2 gets more girls....That should work...lol
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if you have stage 2 and running rich, what can you do about it? how come some are running rich with the gm tune and others dont?
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so we never did get an answer for the normal life span for the sc. I did actually ask my deler when i bought mine and he said around 75k miles and i would need another. Dunno how reliable that is though. I would like to know as well.
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Originally Posted by papasmurf
so we never did get an answer for the normal life span for the sc. I did actually ask my deler when i bought mine and he said around 75k miles and i would need another. Dunno how reliable that is though. I would like to know as well.
dont know about that one yet.. my car has 52,000 miles on it. and im running a 2.6 and no problems at all besides the problem i had with the pistons and headgasket awhile ago
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Not Work Safe To lean? mybe to much boost? Help!

I just got my 06 ss n it has a 2.7 zz performance pully and bigger injectors. It is reading a to lean code n its runing like 17-18 boost when you really get on it. I have takeng it to performance shops but they do not have the right tuneing supplies to fix it. So should I convert it to stage 2 or buy the HPtuner sutie to tune it my self. What should I do?
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I have a 2007 and the dealer can not get the reflash code for the stage 2. Does anyone one here know what it is?
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the flash code comes with the instructions from the kit. should be on one of the pages towards the bottom
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damn i want that gm tune so bad
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Originally Posted by Leatherwood
I just got my 06 ss n it has a 2.7 zz performance pully and bigger injectors. It is reading a to lean code n its runing like 17-18 boost when you really get on it. I have takeng it to performance shops but they do not have the right tuneing supplies to fix it. So should I convert it to stage 2 or buy the HPtuner sutie to tune it my self. What should I do?
You should find a shop/person that has HPTuners... and get a tune. The Stg 2 tune WILL NOT work well for you.

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damn i want that gm tune so bad
No you don't... find someone with HP Tuners... and get them to tune it.
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I know hp tuners would be so much better preformance wise but id honestly prefer the gm tune. I just wish i could buy it without getting the kit or if i could get the gm sg 1 kit at a good price


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