Le Riceburners OFFICIAL Build Thread
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well like i said i'm waist deep here already, they have been through almost everything and not only do i not wanna have someone start all over and pay twice but idk where or who i would even take it to lol cause these are the best guys around far as im concerned
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I agree with Alan and staged... It feels like they've had your car for weeks.
Not to be negative, but damn man... I could never have the patience you have. I understand they have other projects, but you're paying them so that's quite a poor excuse from a business standpoint. They need to give you a time deadline not just work on it when they feel like it.
ZZP wouldn't be a bad option IMO.
Not to be negative, but damn man... I could never have the patience you have. I understand they have other projects, but you're paying them so that's quite a poor excuse from a business standpoint. They need to give you a time deadline not just work on it when they feel like it.
ZZP wouldn't be a bad option IMO.
i bet zzp is busy as hell too, and i dont wanna pay that towtruck bill lol
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o wait forgot i got a truck with a 3000 lb towing capacity!
good thing i removed a bunch of weight from the car, get a 200lb single axle trailer and off i go!
u mad staged
good thing i removed a bunch of weight from the car, get a 200lb single axle trailer and off i go!
u mad staged
Last edited by riceburner; Jun 12, 2015 at 03:12 PM.
Pretty soon you're gonna get an email that ways "we thing your car is broke, so we're going to try a new car"
Seriously dude. Get it out of there. I had hope when Matt was working on it but on fb you said dave is... I'm not throwing stones.. Just get it somewhere else.
Seriously dude. Get it out of there. I had hope when Matt was working on it but on fb you said dave is... I'm not throwing stones.. Just get it somewhere else.
For 1 lets get something straight here. Adam's car had broke unexpectedly. I tried to get him to come to us for the sake of saving him some cash vs going to the dealer. We were booked over a month out when the car was dropped off and i could of sworn that i told Adam right from the beginning that we we're just going to work on in between things and if we had solid days i would dedicate the time. Maybe there was a miscommunication there. I also didn't think that this was going to be this big of a pain in the ass to deal with. Fuel, air, spark right? Guess what? IT HAS THEM ALL. Perfect fuel pressure, injectors spray and fire, coils work, now the air flow issue is fixed.
For 2. For anyone questioning the knowledge of myself or Dave. Question all you want. We fix issues with these cars ALL THE TIME and also from shops all over the united states/world who cant figure them out and even some from a very popular shop(i wont mention names). Dave is a veterened mechanic with a ton of experience in EVERY aspect of the car. He has years of experience over me. So if you think that its a problem that he is working on the car then i should not be working on the car at all. No ones perfect here.
For 3. I am diagnosing this to the best of my ability and so is dave. Im not trying to throw 1000s of dollars of parts at the car either. I have been through nearly every bit of this car with the exception of checking the entire engine harness for breaks in every single individual wire and the oil pump. Lets note here that i have been fixing issues along the way. How about the intake manifold being filled with coolant(destroyed lamnova cores), Chaffed wires and not so good soldering jobs for the wot box, Wiring mess at the fuse box, voltage backfeeding through the interceptor causing ignition issues, broken bolts and lots of other things. Lets not mention the fact that when guys here claimed Adam had a fucked transmission Dave found that just the axle shaft popped out of the intermediate shaft(even though it was still inside it). We could of robbed him blind and costed him a rebuild but that's not how we roll here.
With all this being said, Adam has relayed all the information and suggestions people here or friends have given. A LOT OF WHICH I ALREADY TRIED AND TESTED BEFORE HE'S RELAYED IT TO ME. Enough to where i second guess myself and test it again. I have even consulted with other people on this issue because i have never had a car do this to me like this. I have followed all my knowledge, my diagnostic procedures and so on an so forth. Guess was it all turns up a failure. So im trying and trying and trying between getting everything else done that i need to. We are a small shop and all this boom of business just came at a sudden rush and with only 3 people we are doing the best we can.
So Adam i know we talked via text recently but if you feel we cannot do our job then come get the car. Im not holding in hostage. I appreciate your patience more then you know because your one of the few customers who have not added to the stress of working at a busy shop and since you have my personal number i appreciate it more or so that you don't take **** out on me nor use my phone number for just business crap. I am determined to fix the car but that decision is entirely up to you. I know what im doing and i really don't give a crap what anyone here says because at the end of the day i do my best to send cars out without come backs(im not perfect so it happens here and there). If i didn't have a clue, i wouldn't always have a full pm box to fix peoples things, help them install or accomplish what they are trying to do themself or deliver quality products to them, i wouldnt drive at 2 am in a snow storm(3.5 hours round trip) to help a 1st time customer in need for a problem totally unrelated to our work(key stuck in ignition) to turn his car off for him or take late night phone calls/texts when i could be spending time working on my house, car, with my family, dogs, etc etc but i do it all to provide people the best of service i can(on or off the clock) and will continue to do the best i can. Sorry this has been the way it is Adam and i wish this was figured out by now. Its a let down for me just like you because i dont like to fail
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Thanks for checking in Matt.
Just to piggy back a few things...
One idk if you told me you by guys were backed up; maybe you did and it flew over my head. I know you guys were really backed up same time last year so its whatever. Like Kyle and I have said it is what it is, 3 guys running a shop. Quality over quantity. Im glad im getting what im getting. Takes time; figured mine would have been a higher priority from the getgo but that said, Dave isnt charging me bad at all which is definately awesome.
And yeah its great how as you have combed through everything you have fixed stuff up along the way. Another reason im really glad i brought it your way; not that i expected to take it this far but anyone else would habe just ripped **** out and replaced with new **** everywhere when maybe its not needed. Hell; You guys ooffered to try your power stsering pump out of your personal car to test on mine. Dave bought an ecu for me, car didnt fire, no problem no charge. So the deal im getting is great.
And im keeping my car there. My last few posts were just teasing and stirring the pot sorry if that was taken the wrong way. I understand the stress of your type of work with people breathing down your neck and getting mad blablabla there isnt enough time in life for getting mad and stressing people out. I just wanna help and be the best customer youve ever had wherever i go lol.
Just to piggy back a few things...
One idk if you told me you by guys were backed up; maybe you did and it flew over my head. I know you guys were really backed up same time last year so its whatever. Like Kyle and I have said it is what it is, 3 guys running a shop. Quality over quantity. Im glad im getting what im getting. Takes time; figured mine would have been a higher priority from the getgo but that said, Dave isnt charging me bad at all which is definately awesome.
And yeah its great how as you have combed through everything you have fixed stuff up along the way. Another reason im really glad i brought it your way; not that i expected to take it this far but anyone else would habe just ripped **** out and replaced with new **** everywhere when maybe its not needed. Hell; You guys ooffered to try your power stsering pump out of your personal car to test on mine. Dave bought an ecu for me, car didnt fire, no problem no charge. So the deal im getting is great.
And im keeping my car there. My last few posts were just teasing and stirring the pot sorry if that was taken the wrong way. I understand the stress of your type of work with people breathing down your neck and getting mad blablabla there isnt enough time in life for getting mad and stressing people out. I just wanna help and be the best customer youve ever had wherever i go lol.
It would not have taken a dealer 2.5 months to get it sorted out. And been cheaper. And they're just winging parts at it, hoping they fix it? Are you SERIOUS? Get out of here with that non sense. Fix it right the first time. This is why automotive shops get such a bad name. Because of people like this. That don't know what they're doing, so they just start winging parts at it, at the customers expense. It's sickening.
Hope you get something figured out Adam. Sucks to see this.
Edit: Just seen Adam say you guys aren't sticking him with paying for all your misdiagnosed parts, so that's a good thing. Still getting screwed over, though.
Hope you get something figured out Adam. Sucks to see this.
Edit: Just seen Adam say you guys aren't sticking him with paying for all your misdiagnosed parts, so that's a good thing. Still getting screwed over, though.
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They definately arent just winging parts at it tyler
the only things that have actually been replaced were the manifold, which to my surprise did have a puddle of coolant sitting in it obstructing airflow, and the ecm, due to lost communication errors between ecm and bcm. Seemed like an easy and logical place to stsrt considering a) it happens, b)everything was looking good, and c) i popped an ign fuse on the highways which may have shorted it out or something. And si bc e that didnt solve the problem they put mine right back in.
Besides that they have been very frugal on me and arent replacing jack yet. (Unless something is slipping my mind) in fact i have.offered them to replace many different things and have been talked out of it just because it isnt actually necessary. Lol
To get back on the right track, i did speak with matt last night, pretty late, and weve been discussing possible options: mr powell has actually suggested it could be as simple a thing as my battery. Mines been dead plenty of times, and it could have 14.5v idling on the gauge, then have only enough power to crank the starter but not power the car. So we might be swapping batteries (again of his personal car!) to see if somehow we have luck. Lol
Otherwise we are still thinking of checking out the oil pump.
Im halfway suggesting we try a brand new engine harness. Expensive i know. However just in case there is a break somewhere that we just havent found it might be the solution we need to take. Plus mine is old and dirty and doesnt look nicely installed
im going to explore this option while the above are tried out. Bcm is kind on my list too. All depends
Besides that they have been very frugal on me and arent replacing jack yet. (Unless something is slipping my mind) in fact i have.offered them to replace many different things and have been talked out of it just because it isnt actually necessary. Lol
To get back on the right track, i did speak with matt last night, pretty late, and weve been discussing possible options: mr powell has actually suggested it could be as simple a thing as my battery. Mines been dead plenty of times, and it could have 14.5v idling on the gauge, then have only enough power to crank the starter but not power the car. So we might be swapping batteries (again of his personal car!) to see if somehow we have luck. Lol
Otherwise we are still thinking of checking out the oil pump.
Im halfway suggesting we try a brand new engine harness. Expensive i know. However just in case there is a break somewhere that we just havent found it might be the solution we need to take. Plus mine is old and dirty and doesnt look nicely installed
Matt: I trust you. And only you. I have no doubt dave is capable, I just question methods after the whole sky ordeal. I know that you can only do what you are allowed to do, as you are an employee. Don't take my comments as an attack on you.
It would not have taken a dealer 2.5 months to get it sorted out. And been cheaper. And they're just winging parts at it, hoping they fix it? Are you SERIOUS? Get out of here with that non sense. Fix it right the first time. This is why automotive shops get such a bad name. Because of people like this. That don't know what they're doing, so they just start winging parts at it, at the customers expense. It's sickening.
Hope you get something figured out Adam. Sucks to see this.
Edit: Just seen Adam say you guys aren't sticking him with paying for all your misdiagnosed parts, so that's a good thing. Still getting screwed over, though.
Hope you get something figured out Adam. Sucks to see this.
Edit: Just seen Adam say you guys aren't sticking him with paying for all your misdiagnosed parts, so that's a good thing. Still getting screwed over, though.
I haven't really misdiagnosed ANYTHING that i have not thought to be legit cause to the issue and without reason. I have been in contact with Adam every single step with scan tool and eletrical proof as well as pictures of physical damage and had authorization to fix everything i have fixed BEFORE i do it. There a bunch of codes within his ecu and bcm and guess what all the "winging" parts at it is deleting one code at a time for the process of elimination. Also Adam gave me pages of issues to fix. You now what a dealer would of done? THE SAME THING. Their is a diagnostic procedure for every code and guess what? i have the gm diagnostic procedure for all these codes and they check out. The one part i really winged at this car was a ECU which AL, Mr B, John Powell, myself and my boss all though was a possible issue. The power steering motor is hardwired to my column and is different anyways. Thats a winged part right? It has to be but he had the power steering light come up when the car shut off and also the bcm is throwing codes for it but hey im just winging parts for ***** and giggles because i wanna waste time and money of adams. Im was willing to take parts off my personal car to not waste his time and money and finish the rest of his codes but they arent going to work because of the difference in years. But then again im just winging parts without reason right?
I have not worked on his car every single day for 8 hours a day for 2.5 months. So before you continue spewing your non sense about something you now nothing about check your facts and ask the right questions. Your very cocky from what i see on the forum and yet you have not even had one thing to contribute to helping Adam diagnose his car and honestly there is nothing you will suggest that i have not tried. If you were the awesome technician and car guru you make yourself out to be you would have this figured out in a flash right? sorry dude im not trying to put you and i on bad terms but i have had about enough of the bullshit in this thread.
Maybe you should read through my entire post about the **** i do for people and the extra mile i go for all of our customers or do you need list of the things i do because i can go on about it and all of it isnt bull **** because i feel the need to prove you wrong. I dont spend 60+ at work every single week, weekends, time on here helping people who dont even buy from us or do work through us because other shops screw them over just because i want to prove some forum kids wrong. I believe in doing work the right way and i do, do things the right way. Are we a perfect shop? No. Do we sometimes have isssues? sure do. No ones perfect and things dont always go as planned but neither is any shop and one bad review or one set back speaks louder then the 100 good reviews and successful builds one can do.
Like i said Adam can take his car anytime he wants. You guys are more then welcome to come show me up any time and show me what a shitty mechanic i am and what a shitty fabricator i am too.
The one thing i will say is that we have told the customer to send the car back at our expense and anything wrong with be fixed FOR FREE that is our problem. I will leave it at that. We back our work always and take care of all our customers.
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Very true unrelated to this prohlject but my buddy took his car in to pweros for a gear swap. His reverse gear wasnt working and though all the custoemr provided gears worked when the trans was on the floor it still didnt when back on the car. They took the trans right back out and swapped all the parts for free. Thats real especially because they werent gers provided by the shop
Checking in always looking for a positive post. **** Adam I hope this works out for ya soon! I chased a problem with my car for about a month this spring before figuring it out and was so frustrated. Couldn't imagine longer with an all new set up patiently awaiting! But don't give up! You'll git er done!
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Checking in always looking for a positive post. **** Adam I hope this works out for ya soon! I chased a problem with my car for about a month this spring before figuring it out and was so frustrated. Couldn't imagine longer with an all new set up patiently awaiting! But don't give up! You'll git er done!
I feel like a man in the waiting room for a wife in labor... And shes been in labor for quite a while!
Don't hate on le turbo. You'll learn slowly like I did lol 
Rather then explain my problem, if you're bored and wanna read here ya go lol
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/prob...g-rich-313891/
Rather then explain my problem, if you're bored and wanna read here ya go lol
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/prob...g-rich-313891/
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Kevin's in vacation so I'm not sure if he knows.