Official TVS Thread!!!
Werd
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Well I decided to talk to John Powell for his input on my motor. Hard to find a better person to talk to IMO. And for clarification before anyone points fingers at James I ASKED for an aggressive tune. Guess I got greedy haha.
"My guess. Meth did u in, along with the tune and everything else, just too aggressive for the mileage. Runaway detonation is hard to catch it happens so fast. Give u an example, when we dyno tune, we stand outside and listen to the motor for knock, a good ear can hear it, when hpt (the sensors ) doesn’t see it or pick it up. Meth can hydraulic things. But I think what happened here is you were on the edge tune wise, the second piston rings were already broken some time ago, the leaking coolant was the sleeve starting with a hairline crack, and then bang."
"My guess. Meth did u in, along with the tune and everything else, just too aggressive for the mileage. Runaway detonation is hard to catch it happens so fast. Give u an example, when we dyno tune, we stand outside and listen to the motor for knock, a good ear can hear it, when hpt (the sensors ) doesn’t see it or pick it up. Meth can hydraulic things. But I think what happened here is you were on the edge tune wise, the second piston rings were already broken some time ago, the leaking coolant was the sleeve starting with a hairline crack, and then bang."
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Here is my Samsung. Look at that clear picture!
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...edlines/Tv.jpg
WAIT....this isnt the TV's thread? Oh TVS!!!!
Ok I'm done trolling.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...edlines/Tv.jpg
WAIT....this isnt the TV's thread? Oh TVS!!!!
Ok I'm done trolling.
and it is the tune that will kill these motors, have had a few at well over 400whp for a few yrs' completely stock bottom end an never had any issue (well asside from blowing up transmissions and breaking hydraulic lash adjusters), and I"m talking daily driven cars pushing 20-30k miles +. hell infe's car is over 500whp on stock motor with just cams and valve springs sp6262 on 25-27psi. 3 transmissions dead though lol.
hell I was running over 500whp on pump gas until I got greedy and tried to push 32-34psi on the stock sleeves.
hell I was running over 500whp on pump gas until I got greedy and tried to push 32-34psi on the stock sleeves.
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From: Still fixing others mistakes.
Well I decided to talk to John Powell for his input on my motor. Hard to find a better person to talk to IMO. And for clarification before anyone points fingers at James I ASKED for an aggressive tune. Guess I got greedy haha.
"My guess. Meth did u in, along with the tune and everything else, just too aggressive for the mileage. Runaway detonation is hard to catch it happens so fast. Give u an example, when we dyno tune, we stand outside and listen to the motor for knock, a good ear can hear it, when hpt (the sensors ) doesn’t see it or pick it up. Meth can hydraulic things. But I think what happened here is you were on the edge tune wise, the second piston rings were already broken some time ago, the leaking coolant was the sleeve starting with a hairline crack, and then bang."
"My guess. Meth did u in, along with the tune and everything else, just too aggressive for the mileage. Runaway detonation is hard to catch it happens so fast. Give u an example, when we dyno tune, we stand outside and listen to the motor for knock, a good ear can hear it, when hpt (the sensors ) doesn’t see it or pick it up. Meth can hydraulic things. But I think what happened here is you were on the edge tune wise, the second piston rings were already broken some time ago, the leaking coolant was the sleeve starting with a hairline crack, and then bang."
YES! which is why i still post every now and then.
i cranked 30psi on my stock long blocked lsj for a while and didn't have problems. till i narfed something in the map and tried to lift the head.
Thats one thing I often think about. When I did my ported head I put new factory head bolts in instead of ARP's. That was going on 2 years ago and 14,000 miles, and I have many WOT runs, track runs, dyno runs on the TVS and 2.7, but its still in the back of my mind.
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From: Still fixing others mistakes.
30 psi
13.6 afr
36 degree's of timing
e85.
made dick for power. pushed coolant. why? because i wasn't paying attention when i redid the timing map for the halved map. whoops.
which leads me to think, how in the **** do people blow these things up? is it sheer stupidity of the end user and the "tuner" combined?
for argument sake, i fixed the map and the next pull was 370whp.
13.6 afr
36 degree's of timing
e85.
made dick for power. pushed coolant. why? because i wasn't paying attention when i redid the timing map for the halved map. whoops.
which leads me to think, how in the **** do people blow these things up? is it sheer stupidity of the end user and the "tuner" combined?
for argument sake, i fixed the map and the next pull was 370whp.