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Old 10-18-2012, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
darton sleeves are beyond over kill a zzp block will suffice much cheaper and not to mention you can do a 2.4 or a 2.1 out of one block
Which block? Their girdled? Or is there something I'm missing? I'm always up for a cheaper and dependable route haha
Old 10-18-2012, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Which block? Their girdled? Or is there something I'm missing? I'm always up for a cheaper and dependable route haha
Girdled is far cheaper than darton and tested to 898whp and 54psi. That's what he meant.
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Originally Posted by armcclure
Girdled is far cheaper than darton and tested to 898whp and 54psi. That's what he meant.
But the girdled block is $1000 minus any modifications plus I have to ship my block. Darton sleeves from OTTP are $685.
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penny wise, pound foolish.

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Atleast you swing from a good pair of nuts
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I can care less if you swing from one nut to another. You should still be banned.. And you will soon. So don't worry
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
But the girdled block is $1000 minus any modifications plus I have to ship my block. Darton sleeves from OTTP are $685.
right the sleeves are 685 then you have the additional machining cost so the block can accept the dartons fyi darton quoted me 1800 bucks total for a darton sleeves block they arent plug and play
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
right the sleeves are 685 then you have the additional machining cost so the block can accept the dartons fyi darton quoted me 1800 bucks total for a darton sleeves block they arent plug and play
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Ya I knew it wasn't plug and play. I don't know what machine work is exactly worth though.
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they have to get rid of the alluminum sleeve backing and open up the bottom of the block to accept the sleeves and you run a risk of cracking the bottom of the block when they press the sleeves in and they are supposed to be press all 4 in at once

yes the cost is a big deal but finding a cometent machine shop is the problem your 685 bucks could make a coupli of paper weights to get it right
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Ya I knew it wasn't plug and play. I don't know what machine work is exactly worth though.
All depends. But you never know what kind of quality it will be when it's all said and done until you've already paid.

soooooooooooooooooo
ZZP girdled or forged block or Mr B's secret sleeved shortblock or idk.. nothing
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BLUE-Listen to experience, buying sleeves is but the first step in a process that is going to nickle and dime you.

I fucked up my 3k build, spent another grand, got nowhere, admitted I was beat, payed ZZP their tribute $$$, another $400 for shipping, $500 for duty and broker, and now proudly own an indestructible ecotec.

pay to play, cheaping out will slay you.


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Originally Posted by OttawaMark
BLUE-Listen to experience, buying sleeves is but the first step in a process that is going to nickle and dime you.

I fucked up my 3k build, spent another grand, got nowhere, admitted I was beat, payed ZZP their tribute $$$, another $400 for shipping, $500 for duty and broker, and now proudly own an indestructible ecotec.

pay to play, cheaping out will slay you.


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there is no block that is indestructable
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my valve cover aint even ever been off.....
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my valve cover aint even ever been off.....
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Originally Posted by OttawaMark
BLUE-Listen to experience, buying sleeves is but the first step in a process that is going to nickle and dime you.

I fucked up my 3k build, spent another grand, got nowhere, admitted I was beat, payed ZZP their tribute $$$, another $400 for shipping, $500 for duty and broker, and now proudly own an indestructible ecotec.

pay to play, cheaping out will slay you.


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Good to know! Like I said this motor build is kinda new to me. I don't really know the specifics of the build which like you say can nickle and dime you to death and be no further ahead. Thanks for the sound advice
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Mr. B- stouter than the OEM version, by an order of magnitude. Maybe not base 10, but certainly worth the $$$ spent.
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Originally Posted by OttawaMark
BLUE-Listen to experience, buying sleeves is but the first step in a process that is going to nickle and dime you.

I fucked up my 3k build, spent another grand, got nowhere, admitted I was beat, payed ZZP their tribute $$$, another $400 for shipping, $500 for duty and broker, and now proudly own an indestructible ecotec.

pay to play, cheaping out will slay you.


my .02
Hes got a way around that


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