Official TVS Thread!!!
Well, I get the tvs is still a pump, but a pump flowing more efficient and more air quicker. So therefore it should have better results. More tq, more whp. Enough to worry about? I'd say maybe 1-2%different within the tune. So I'd say it would be worth it if it helps getting the whp up there. All Lsj cars I ramp in afr, wether sced or turbo, turbo to also helps spool.
I'm not trying to call you out or pick a fight, but how can you argue with the graphed proof right in front of you? The lines lay almost literally right on top of each other.
There's a thread on the bullet somewhere that i need to find again where a guy ran e98 from 11-12.5 and everything in between with no notable change in tq or hp.
The afr relation to power is based on n/a cars that can get away with running an afr we can't even come close to.
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Inadequate? Naw. Bored, alittle. I know i can build a car that trumps the "Hero" cars on this site, I dont care if you guys acknowledge me for it. A guy has to have some entertainment and with Cobalt owners being insecure crybabies, this is the perfect place. I've been on the forum for a while now. It is a great place to get used supercharger parts.
I'm not arguing and nor do I want to argue with you again.. His graph is for a m62 that's pushing low boost. What I am saying is it am not be a noticeable difference but there will be lol. I'm not saying by ramping the air fuel itll make godly differences..
The graph in from of me shows differences. So change of boost and at a certain point I can see more difference then shown. Not like 100hp I'm speaking just a percent or so. Now in relation to na cars , I know a mpi boosted car won't be able to hold a 14/13ish won't hold it's own but di cars can hold low 13s and ramp down to 12s in which I've seen power differences there a lot with the LNf. .
The graph in from of me shows differences. So change of boost and at a certain point I can see more difference then shown. Not like 100hp I'm speaking just a percent or so. Now in relation to na cars , I know a mpi boosted car won't be able to hold a 14/13ish won't hold it's own but di cars can hold low 13s and ramp down to 12s in which I've seen power differences there a lot with the LNf. .
The combustion process doesn't know or care how the air gets there... X cfm is X cfm no matter what puts it there.
I'm not trying to call you out or pick a fight, but how can you argue with the graphed proof right in front of you? The lines lay almost literally right on top of each other.
There's a thread on the bullet somewhere that i need to find again where a guy ran e98 from 11-12.5 and everything in between with no notable change in tq or hp.
The afr relation to power is based on n/a cars that can get away with running an afr we can't even come close to.
I'm not trying to call you out or pick a fight, but how can you argue with the graphed proof right in front of you? The lines lay almost literally right on top of each other.
There's a thread on the bullet somewhere that i need to find again where a guy ran e98 from 11-12.5 and everything in between with no notable change in tq or hp.
The afr relation to power is based on n/a cars that can get away with running an afr we can't even come close to.
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To the two members bickerking....
I suggest you stop. Thanks.
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I deleted the nonsense posts that started showing up in the last 2 pages. To LOL CBLT.... either post something useful about your car, or don't post at all. This is not a pissing match nor a thread to start ****.
I suggest you stop. Thanks.
Edit:
I deleted the nonsense posts that started showing up in the last 2 pages. To LOL CBLT.... either post something useful about your car, or don't post at all. This is not a pissing match nor a thread to start ****.
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From: NEPA
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Boo Yah!!
Awesome man. How is she idling? Have you fixed your idle issue?
Well since I cant sense emotion through text, I'm sorry for jumping on you for what I thought was a smart ass comment back.
Awesome man. How is she idling? Have you fixed your idle issue?
Well since I cant sense emotion through text, I'm sorry for jumping on you for what I thought was a smart ass comment back.
I will today my idc1000s didn't come with the two needed orings on the body of the injector so the lower oring won't push through the injector bucket. I had some at work so she should idle fine now when I get home 
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I have done AFR testing on the M62 which proves exactly what 100% Meth is saying. The runs basically lay on top of each other. Keep the AFR safe and forget about it...
Maybe I will try it on the TVS if I rent some dyno time soon.
Maybe I will try it on the TVS if I rent some dyno time soon.
I'm not arguing and nor do I want to argue with you again.. His graph is for a m62 that's pushing low boost. What I am saying is it am not be a noticeable difference but there will be lol. I'm not saying by ramping the air fuel itll make godly differences..
The graph in from of me shows differences. So change of boost and at a certain point I can see more difference then shown. Not like 100hp I'm speaking just a percent or so. Now in relation to na cars , I know a mpi boosted car won't be able to hold a 14/13ish won't hold it's own but di cars can hold low 13s and ramp down to 12s in which I've seen power differences there a lot with the LNf. .
The graph in from of me shows differences. So change of boost and at a certain point I can see more difference then shown. Not like 100hp I'm speaking just a percent or so. Now in relation to na cars , I know a mpi boosted car won't be able to hold a 14/13ish won't hold it's own but di cars can hold low 13s and ramp down to 12s in which I've seen power differences there a lot with the LNf. .
You're completely entitled your opinion, but
Don't call someone else wrong with no proof. If you believe that ramping afr helps with power then fine. Post something proving it. If you already have, link it pretty please so i don't incorrectly call you wrong.
I've seen eric's logs as well as steve's and they show no gain from one to the other.
If you have something showing otherwise we would love to see it.
Did I say someone was wrong? No I did not....... There is no proof on the tvs and ramping Afrs. All I am saying is I can see a little gain. Wether the tune is ramped in richer then leaner or leaner then richer.
