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Old 01-27-2012, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
No, riddles and I'm not saying the 1900 wont work, just that I think thats the limit we could really use based on what we can actually flow though the head. After seeing these graphs I changed by backup plan from m90 to this if I dont get 350hp on my theoretical build, like the engine builder program says I will. I should see if I saved that engine because it would be real easy to pop this blower on it so we can start guessing power for realz. Based on the 2nd graph there, I'm guessing you're going to somehow see the pr1 to pr1.1 area for boost.
I wasn't talking about you.

I'm talking about 100%Meth. He keeps leaving us wanting to know more.

Cliff hangers, short clues, and talk of new testing were some of Area47's greatest traits.

Now 100%Meth is doing the same

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Old 01-27-2012, 10:43 AM
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at least there is progress im just hoping that if it works out they make kits for it a regular thing, not just prototypes. Be nice to see this and the mp90 listed for sale on a vendor site as bolt on kits.
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Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
No, riddles
He was not referring to you. He would not insult Area47 like that.

Originally Posted by Leafydialupking
I'm not saying the 1900 wont work, just that I think thats the limit we could really use based on what we can actually flow though the head. After seeing these graphs I changed by backup plan from m90 to this if I dont get 350hp on my theoretical build, like the engine builder program says I will. I should see if I saved that engine because it would be real easy to pop this blower on it so we can start guessing power for realz. Based on the 2nd graph there, I'm guessing you're going to somehow see the pr1 to pr1.1 area for boost.
I don't think I have read one positive post from you on this entire forum. You are always bashing and trying to derail people's efforts in every thread you post in. You have barely the slightest clue about what you are talking but run your mouth in every thread. Do some more research on this platform and people might start respecting your opinion.

Listen to what he is saying before you blindly reply.

Originally Posted by 100% METH
Again, your basing this off a stock/mild cammed LSJ with either a gasket matched/smoothed exhaust ports.

I'll leave you with this for now, and let you think about it.

When all is said and done, the m62 on 2.5 pulley (typically 19-21 psi on a stock head and cams) will be 10 psi, most likely less.
He is not talking about a typical ported head. He is talking about something that could potentially drop the boost on a M62 from 19-20psi to 10psi. If you know anything about the M62 or LSJ heads, you would know that is not normal with anything that has ever been tried before.

He is building his engine to properly support the power adder.

So why don't you just sit back and relax and wait for the results before criticizing.
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Originally Posted by ebristol
He was not referring to you. He would not insult Area47 like that.



I don't think I have read one positive post from you on this entire forum. You are always bashing and trying to derail people's efforts in every thread you post in. You have barely the slightest clue about what you are talking but run your mouth in every thread. Do some more research on this platform and people might start respecting your opinion.

Listen to what he is saying before you blindly reply.



He is not talking about a typical ported head. He is talking about something that could potentially drop the boost on a M62 from 19-20psi to 10psi. If you know anything about the M62 or LSJ heads, you would know that is not normal with anything that has ever been tried before.

He is building his engine to properly support the power adder.

So why don't you just sit back and relax and wait for the results before criticizing.
Agreed!

Everyone needs to chill out, and let this happen. No one can say anything about this build until results are on the table. 100%Meth is trying something new, and no one really knows the potential outcome. Yes, we can all throw our opinions based on what we may think we know, but until there is hard data, the opinions really mean nothing.
Old 01-27-2012, 11:34 AM
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I wasn't criticizing this build here, I was criticizing the person who said to put a 2300 on it because I don't think you can port the stock head out enough to flow enough air to keep that huge blower in its efficiency range.
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
redline will be 8192 - Thats as high as HPtuners will allow me to go
I would love to know how ZZP went higher
Originally Posted by Sharkey
im sure you know already, but thats the limits of the factory pcm, not just hp tuners.
ENGINE->FUEL->CUTOFF/DFCO-> IN GEAR MODIFIER

we can't run over 63.5# injectors either now can we?


fueling and spark calculations will be based off the top of the tables though.
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Lol......... Riddle me this, riddle me that.

Until its done who's to say it won't support a 2300. We simply don't know yet...

Anywho, I'm not trying to riddle. Just waiting for a finished product before I post hard facts, using the dyno, hpt scanner, etc.

This has not been attempted before to my knowledge on this forum... Or in this platforms entire history.
Old 01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
Lol......... Riddle me this, riddle me that.

Until its done who's to say it won't support a 2300. We simply don't know yet...

Anywho, I'm not trying to riddle. Just waiting for a finished product before I post hard facts, using the dyno, hpt scanner, etc.

This has not been attempted before to my knowledge on this forum... Or in this platforms entire history.
Haha, just bustin u man.
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I never said the 1900 is to big. I said you wouldnt want to go any bigger.
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i want to see the flow numbers on the elephant trunk sized head ports!


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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Haha, just bustin u man.
Oh I know...

Though maybe I should
Old 01-27-2012, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecturbo
I never said the 1900 is to big. I said you wouldnt want to go any bigger.
word...

Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
i want to see the flow numbers on the elephant trunk sized head ports!


:Ninja EDIT:

muahahaha
Old 01-27-2012, 01:28 PM
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would be pretty awesome to flow twice as much as stock

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This thread just went full retard
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
i see no ninja edit...would be pretty awesome to flow twice as much as stock
Just went over to Jr's last night to drop parts off

It's shocking to see how small our ports are stock. Especially with a evo head sitting next to it... :P
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Originally Posted by Blowncavy
This thread just went full retard
Nah, this is nothing
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fixed

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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Agreed!

Everyone needs to chill out, and let this happen. No one can say anything about this build until results are on the table. 100%Meth is trying something new, and no one really knows the potential outcome. Yes, we can all throw our opinions based on what we may think we know, but until there is hard data, the opinions really mean nothing.
Remember what happened with the MP90...

I should go copy paste the quotes in here... "5whp over", "it's going to make less hp", "the hood won't close", "it won't break 300"
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Originally Posted by freakta
I could see a great port and supporting valvetrain easily dropping 50 percent of restrictions.
My exhaust port on the head with a 2.5 exhaust and stock cams saw a 20 percent boost drop
Sorry I miss typed it and fixed what was wrong
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Originally Posted by freakta
I could see a great port and supporting valvetrain easily dropping 50 percent of restrictions.
My exhaust port on a 2.5 exhaust and stock cams saw a 20 percent boost drop
Freakta you havn't seen anything yet sir

If people thought we were insane for trying to air to air, wait until you see this.

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i rode shotgun in the 1900 car!

although at the time i thought it used a genV rotor pack, not tvs
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
i rode shotgun in the 1900 car!

although at the time i thought it used a genV rotor pack, not tvs
Damn that was a really long time ago wasn't it?
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
Remember what happened with the MP90...

I should go copy paste the quotes in here... "5whp over", "it's going to make less hp", "the hood won't close", "it won't break 300"
Oh, I remember that thread all to well.

So far this thread is going well. I will not allow it to get ruined though.

So no worries.
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indeed it was, around december 15th 2009(still have the tune you named pain in the ass car) lol
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Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
indeed it was, around december 15th 2009(still have the tune you named pain in the ass car) lol
forever live the tune...

ninja edit!


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