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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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I don't think it fair that anyone says that the factory LSJ intake mani is a restriction or won't flow xx amount with out at least something to back that up beside "I mean come on, look at that thing"
I'm not saying anything, i'm simply questing it.
There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence that to support either. "come on look at it "is pretty much the same thing as "its not the problem". At least i offer some speculation as to why i don't think its good for high flow. Every time fluid changes direction it loses speed, air leaves the SC to meet a practically flat face where it makes a 90 degree turn then it has to make a 70 ish* turn down then a 90 to enter the cores then another 90 as it leaves the cores to head up to the runners then another 90ish* into the head... i just don't see how no one finds that to be an issue.

I'll shut up once i see some flow numbers.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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......there is a reason why gm made 1400hp on not much pressure
And it didn't require absurdly large cams either
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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i enjoy the fact that kids are getting twinkle eyed over this and have yet to fully exploit the 1320 potential.
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Better flow from cams even the mild stage 1 cams ZZP has for the LNF even with stock heads, etc drops boost pressure 2-3 psi and increases corrected mass airflow along with the pressure drop.
its more from the lsa change the lift and duration is helping but not nearly as much as you think or as it should be helping

Originally Posted by phatnackySS
I'm not saying anything, i'm simply questing it.
There doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence that to support either. "come on look at it "is pretty much the same thing as "its not the problem". At least i offer some speculation as to why i don't think its good for high flow. Every time fluid changes direction it loses speed, air leaves the SC to meet a practically flat face where it makes a 90 degree turn then it has to make a 70 ish* turn down then a 90 to enter the cores then another 90 as it leaves the cores to head up to the runners then another 90ish* into the head... i just don't see how no one finds that to be an issue.

I'll shut up once i see some flow numbers.
there is not complete solid but like i said the manifold has been 450 or more with a snail and who said ill post up the numbers it may just be pics



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And it didn't require absurdly large cams either
thats the truth
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:10 PM
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i enjoy the fact that kids are getting twinkle eyed over this and have yet to fully exploit the 1320 potential.
true
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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Bad ass!
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
its more from the lsa change the lift and duration is helping but not nearly as much as you think or as it should be helping



there is not complete solid but like i said the manifold has been 450 or more with a snail and who said ill post up the numbers it may just be pics





thats the truth
That is a lot of airmass being moved to make 1400hp. I know nothing of this car though. Specs on it?
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:25 PM
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So close to spilling the beans
how do you know? !
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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it was the gm sport compact race car
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 07:17 AM
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how do you know? !
I have my sources....

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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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What are you teasing about? The new hennesy?
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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Exactly
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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Ultimate flow through the LSJ manifold is one thing (0.2mm fins with 0.3mm in between, so effectively 60% open space over the core length), but I need more cooling capacity!!

Running above 90°C on closed circuit track days and like to get that down to 50°C.
More cooling surface > less air flowspeed over the cores > increased cooling capacity & less resistance. Win win win...

(Water meth injection is just a bandaid for this and no E85 here.)
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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Do not run methanol then

Get the car on a dyno and figure out at which point you begin losing power by only running distilled water

Jetting sizes are now available in .25 and .50 increments for more precise sizing
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedytec
Ultimate flow through the LSJ manifold is one thing (0.2mm fins with 0.3mm in between, so effectively 60% open space over the core length), but I need more cooling capacity!!

Running above 90°C on closed circuit track days and like to get that down to 50°C.
More cooling surface > less air flowspeed over the cores > increased cooling capacity & less resistance. Win win win...

(Water meth injection is just a bandaid for this and no E85 here.)
The factory laminova's were only designed to support 50hp per core.
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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And at that level, they are flat out amazing
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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according to the man here Boostec Us, Inc. richard i believe is his name the cores are not really designed for specific hp level. the problem we have is complete system design we do not have enough coolant capacity in the system and that it needs to be increased
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Showing my face here again for the first time since having a Lysholm 1600 from back in the day.. Area is right.. the stock intake mani is useless and will kill it.. 1600 was useless on the LSJ.. car was best with the TVS 1320 on it
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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Area what r u rocking these days? lol still have the truck?
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 06_SIC_SS
Showing my face here again for the first time since having a Lysholm 1600 from back in the day.. Area is right.. the stock intake mani is useless and will kill it.. 1600 was useless on the LSJ.. car was best with the TVS 1320 on it
he never said it was useles
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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Any release dates yet? This would be great
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 03:50 AM
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Preached for years, finally have something to work with...
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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Any release dates yet? This would be great
U can buy one now
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
The factory laminova's were only designed to support 50hp per core.
Well, Laminova advices max 2.5mm fin-core per HP(crank), so with our 4x180mm cores they are flat maxed out @ ~290HP

And water injection is already in, but it's not helping that much (need bigger nozzles) and really a pita to keep filling up the waterbottle on the track...
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedytec
Well, Laminova advices max 2.5mm fin-core per HP(crank), so with our 4x180mm cores they are flat maxed out @ ~290HP

And water injection is already in, but it's not helping that much (need bigger nozzles) and really a pita to keep filling up the waterbottle on the track...
I'm running a lot of meth myself and I use the washer bottle for my container I have gone through 5L of meth in a night of racing where I went through half a tank of gas too

I found that 60% meth worked the best on my LNF

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