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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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why all the b.s in this thread ???? if you like the new 1900 option sweeet, lets get some guinea pigs going.

if you dont like it, thats great too but why clutter the thread b.s ?

if you think turbo is better, there is a thread for that ... i just dont understand all the bickering.

the title of the thread is not "turbo vs 1900" just to clear that up.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowsupercharged06
why all the b.s in this thread ???? if you like the new 1900 option sweeet, lets get some guinea pigs going.

if you dont like it, thats great too but why clutter the thread b.s ?

if you think turbo is better, there is a thread for that ... i just dont understand all the bickering.

the title of the thread is not "turbo vs 1900" just to clear that up.
Agreed!!

Always turns into a battle though.

I'm going to start deleting any turbo talk....

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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Agreed!!

Always turns into a battle though....
Not sure where it started but if people comment I reply LOL.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Not sure where it started but if people comment I reply LOL.
Your better than that !
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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On the intercooler cores and a HP rating. That is a number that has a lot of variables. I think it's best to just wait a few weeks and see what they can handle.
That information was straight from the flow charts and manufacture data on the cores.

Me personally, id rather take that info over anyone else.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
That information was straight from the flow charts and manufacture data on the cores.

Me personally, id rather take that info over anyone else.
But what if you double the flow? Increase the system capacity? Put on a better heat exchanger for more heat extraction? Put on a more efficient supercharger? Like I said those are just numbers and they will be put to the test soon.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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Ok lets see one of these run I want to see a 500whp run on one.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Soon. Both units will be shipping out this week to customers for testing and dyno time. My car isn't ready so I don't get to play yet. I should have numbers in about 2 weeks.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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Is this what it's going to sound like if so it's going to be sweet just for the sound alone

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...qz3reuI05yeCLw
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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I remember that car! Love the wine from it it's unreal lol. I mean a turbo spool and blowoff is cool... But something about the whine from a supercharger gets me feeling like a little kid
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Agreed!!

Always turns into a battle though.

I'm going to start deleting any turbo talk....
there was not going to be a battle
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Did people doubt the 1320 as much as this? Jeez
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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I'm willing to try this supercharger. Thanks for the information.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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How does the boost response of the TVS 1900 compare to the TVS 1320? Basically how laggy is it?
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nhanson
Did people doubt the 1320 as much as this? Jeez
Probably.

Hell, people still do...

Everyone wants to see it pushed yet no one is willing to do it.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by staged07ss
agreed!!

Always turns into a battle though.

I'm going to start deleting any turbo talk....
turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo...

Turbo turbo turbo...

Talk
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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Interested in how this works out, always like to follow developing products

Originally Posted by leemanfor
turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo...

Turbo turbo turbo...

Talk
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 09:50 PM
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I remember when the 1320 came out and everyone was bitching and moan for a turbo.


2300 for a blower is pricey

For me there was only two options it was either the gay hahn kit for 4k or the TVS

the choice was clear...

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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
there was not going to be a battle
Come on now.... you and I have been both around long enough to know that's not true.

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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
How does the boost response of the TVS 1900 compare to the TVS 1320? Basically how laggy is it?
I still want to know the answer to this from one of you SC gurus.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.6 pulley = 15,066.66 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.5 pulley = 15,497.14 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.4 pulley = 15,952.94 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.3 pulley = 16,436.36 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.2 pulley = 16,950.00 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.1 pulley = 17,496.77 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 3.0 pulley = 18,080.00 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 2.9 pulley = 18,703.44 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 2.8 pulley = 19,371.42 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 2.7 pulley = 20,088.88 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 2.6 pulley = 20,861.53 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 2.5 pulley = 21,696.00 RPM
8000 rpm x 6.78 ATI / 2.4 pulley = 22,600.00 RPM


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A tvs 1320:

8000 RPM X 6.78 ATI / 2.6 Pulley = 20,861.53 RPM

Roughly between 1600 - 1700 m^3/hr or 941.72 cfm - 1000.58 cfm
(22 PSI - 28 PSI ~ Depending on if you go whole hog like Infraredline's head or just a port/polish/gasket match)

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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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Mother of God that thing can flow about 1200 CFM max which is impressive. Looks like a 3.0 pulley will max it out around 18000RPMs at 8000 RPMs most will likely run larger than a 3.0 with it though.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I still want to know the answer to this from one of you SC gurus.
response was quick, like any other blower

the 3.5 pulley felt like a big pulley m62 for the most part
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Mother of God that thing can flow about 1200 CFM max which is impressive. Looks like a 3.0 pulley will max it out around 18000RPMs at 8000 RPMs most will likely run larger than a 3.0 with it though.
It will go considerably higher than that

Delta Temp and VE say F U after 18 psi [Insert water injection pre-blower here]
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
It will go considerably higher than that

Delta Temp and VE say F U after 18 psi [Insert water injection pre-blower here]
What is max speed 20000 RPMs?
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