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this is true. easier power! 340whp on 18 psi from a blower. or 400whp from a 60-1 on the same boost levels. gee. let me think here!
my final goal is 400whp. be it with a turbo or blower. the goal is the same. this being in dream land for right now. BC wants 1520 dollars to grind the cams i want. they get the finger.
380whp on stock cams can be had. never said it would be easy either.
my final goal is 400whp. be it with a turbo or blower. the goal is the same. this being in dream land for right now. BC wants 1520 dollars to grind the cams i want. they get the finger.
380whp on stock cams can be had. never said it would be easy either.
If you want the cam sensor that bad, have a shop change the hex angle, or just use a big fkn screw driver, lol.
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I would venture to say that maintenance is a major factor in people not making power with near identical setups. Spark plugs, oil, air filters, fuel filters, and general upkeep make a BIG difference. Case in point. my car with a fujita intake, lighter wheels and a 3" dp only lost by car length to a wrx which had a full vishnu setup (identical to the one sport compact car tested to run a 12.8 in the beat the sti issue). While i realize there are many factors that come into play in a drag race he really doesnt take care of his car: oil changes are sporadic, no new plugs since he has bought the car and im sure he doesn't clean his filter every oil change. I on the other hand do an oil change around 2,800 -3,000 miles, clean the air filter every 2 oil changes, do an engine flush every two oil changes, seafoam every 15k miles, brake fluid every 30k, plugs every 15k. When we raced I was on fresh oil, fresh plugs, fresh fuel filter, freshly cleaned air filter and new coolant, all things considered i feel as though i did well. So yes, that's my maintenance theory, just my 2cents.
I would venture to say that maintenance is a major factor in people not making power with near identical setups. Spark plugs, oil, air filters, fuel filters, and general upkeep make a BIG difference. Case in point. my car with a fujita intake, lighter wheels and a 3" dp only lost by car length to a wrx which had a full vishnu setup (identical to the one sport compact car tested to run a 12.8 in the beat the sti issue). While i realize there are many factors that come into play in a drag race he really doesnt take care of his car: oil changes are sporadic, no new plugs since he has bought the car and im sure he doesn't clean his filter every oil change. I on the other hand do an oil change around 2,800 -3,000 miles, clean the air filter every 2 oil changes, do an engine flush every two oil changes, seafoam every 15k miles, brake fluid every 30k, plugs every 15k. When we raced I was on fresh oil, fresh plugs, fresh fuel filter, freshly cleaned air filter and new coolant, all things considered i feel as though i did well. So yes, that's my maintenance theory, just my 2cents.
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we found this little snip-it out in chi-town last year.
silly people trying to do a highway pull agenst me in there blower cars......
this thread does make me giggle tho, I 2nd area's question.
i was popping 300whp outta the m62 ~3yr's ago. it took a wild tune to get it there, but still!
this was done on a bitch of a land and sea dyno. same one Dan's turbo RL netter low 300's and most 2.5-2.7 cars go 260-240whp
the thing that kills me are torque numbers i see people post. does no one ever go for peak cylinder pressure?
i see many 300-320whp TVS cars here with 260-270wtq, i was netting 280-290 on a m62.
yet people are still crawling in the 250-260 range on wayyyyy more mod's then i ever used back in the day.
you need two things to make decent power on this car. a higher lift cam as the stocker will put up a brick wall toward the 400 mark. And a cylinder head with at least a vary ported exhaust side. 270-280CFM.
silly people trying to do a highway pull agenst me in there blower cars......
this thread does make me giggle tho, I 2nd area's question.
i was popping 300whp outta the m62 ~3yr's ago. it took a wild tune to get it there, but still!
this was done on a bitch of a land and sea dyno. same one Dan's turbo RL netter low 300's and most 2.5-2.7 cars go 260-240whp
the thing that kills me are torque numbers i see people post. does no one ever go for peak cylinder pressure?
i see many 300-320whp TVS cars here with 260-270wtq, i was netting 280-290 on a m62.
yet people are still crawling in the 250-260 range on wayyyyy more mod's then i ever used back in the day.
you need two things to make decent power on this car. a higher lift cam as the stocker will put up a brick wall toward the 400 mark. And a cylinder head with at least a vary ported exhaust side. 270-280CFM.
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Cookie cutter to me would be running a blower because that's what 99% of the people here are doing. Turbo or twin charged would be unique.
In terms of power though, I'd be curious as to how a stock M62 with a ported head would compare to a stock head TVS car. The head is 1/2 the cost and may produce all of the gains... Then again both would be even better but if you're doing head, cams, blower, header, exhaust, it seems like a buttload to spend.
In terms of power though, I'd be curious as to how a stock M62 with a ported head would compare to a stock head TVS car. The head is 1/2 the cost and may produce all of the gains... Then again both would be even better but if you're doing head, cams, blower, header, exhaust, it seems like a buttload to spend.
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we found this little snip-it out in chi-town last year.
silly people trying to do a highway pull agenst me in there blower cars......
this thread does make me giggle tho, I 2nd area's question.
i was popping 300whp outta the m62 ~3yr's ago. it took a wild tune to get it there, but still!
this was done on a bitch of a land and sea dyno. same one Dan's turbo RL netter low 300's and most 2.5-2.7 cars go 260-240whp
the thing that kills me are torque numbers i see people post. does no one ever go for peak cylinder pressure?
i see many 300-320whp TVS cars here with 260-270wtq, i was netting 280-290 on a m62.
yet people are still crawling in the 250-260 range on wayyyyy more mod's then i ever used back in the day.
you need two things to make decent power on this car. a higher lift cam as the stocker will put up a brick wall toward the 400 mark. And a cylinder head with at least a vary ported exhaust side. 270-280CFM.
silly people trying to do a highway pull agenst me in there blower cars......
this thread does make me giggle tho, I 2nd area's question.
i was popping 300whp outta the m62 ~3yr's ago. it took a wild tune to get it there, but still!
this was done on a bitch of a land and sea dyno. same one Dan's turbo RL netter low 300's and most 2.5-2.7 cars go 260-240whp
the thing that kills me are torque numbers i see people post. does no one ever go for peak cylinder pressure?
i see many 300-320whp TVS cars here with 260-270wtq, i was netting 280-290 on a m62.
yet people are still crawling in the 250-260 range on wayyyyy more mod's then i ever used back in the day.
you need two things to make decent power on this car. a higher lift cam as the stocker will put up a brick wall toward the 400 mark. And a cylinder head with at least a vary ported exhaust side. 270-280CFM.
I see you post this **** all the time. WTF did you have done to your car to break 300 so easily yet so many people can't do it nowadays? I think you went to a happy dyno and you should just quit bragging. I do realize that your cobalt is the most modified right now and makes the most power, but I don't think your 300whp m62 claims are realistic.
What were your trap speeds at the 1/4?
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are they all TVS cars? or m62?
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Most and I do mean MOST of the higher HP blower cars keep their **** secretive... your gonna just have to deal with it man... hell I can barely get anything outta' Area and thought we were friends!