ZZP S1 Cams
That was as of the writing of the article. That is no longer the case. Do some research before you pop off again.
I guess I should know by know that your opinions must be more accurate than a lab test. Show me a completely stock motor dyno peaking at 6500+
Oh wait, they don't.
Don't you have something better to do than push your ignorance onto others? All you do is stir the **** in every thread you enter.
I guess I should know by know that your opinions must be more accurate than a lab test. Show me a completely stock motor dyno peaking at 6500+
Oh wait, they don't.
Don't you have something better to do than push your ignorance onto others? All you do is stir the **** in every thread you enter.
Completely Stock
Stock expect for downpipe
Both of these peak at 6400, keep trying lil girl.
my s2 peaked at 6800 but that is on the ported saab head, which is roughly the same as a stock lsj. not exactly though, so its not a direct comparison.
where's the proof that's a bone stock car?
where's the proof that's a bone stock car?
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You can keep trying but you dont have a chance, unlike you I make sure my info is correct before I go post it. All you have provided was an inaccurate dyno session and iv proved that peak power is around 6.4 for a stock lsj.
can't even complete your own tasks
You're really reaching at this point, yes the first dyno is stock and the second one is only a downpipe. Really go read the dyno section before you post in here again atleast try to be educated.
i'm just waiting for him to ask another question. anyway, I was just reading an article the other day about how switching from an eddy current to inertia shifted peak hp over 400rpm... food for thought.
smh.. well an aftermarket dp isn't stock now is it? ive already been all over the dyno thread. I like seeing my name up there. it reminds me how fun it is being good.
I love how you keep trying to discredit me, I clearly stated second dyno had a downpipe and that didnt effect the peak whp, as the peak whp is in the same place on the stock dyno. Like I said do some reading before posting.
comprehension>you
lol im sorry you failed to prove your point but next time do some research and you may fair a lil better. k thx bye!
OP, my .02; go with the stage2 cams. they are very good for what they are. They offer a nice gain, and are advertised drop in ready, which they are. Judging by your thoughts and questions I think they'll make a nice fit for you.
additional food for thought;
im sure most of you have read the 300hp build book. anyone remember how much they had to adjust the bates cam gears to make up for the cams being off?
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I can't force you to understand something obviously far beyond your comprehension level...
OP, my .02; go with the stage2 cams. they are very good for what they are. They offer a nice gain, and are advertised drop in ready, which they are. Judging by your thoughts and questions I think they'll make a nice fit for you.
additional food for thought;
im sure most of you have read the 300hp build book. anyone remember how much they had to adjust the bates cam gears to make up for the cams being off?
OP, my .02; go with the stage2 cams. they are very good for what they are. They offer a nice gain, and are advertised drop in ready, which they are. Judging by your thoughts and questions I think they'll make a nice fit for you.
additional food for thought;
im sure most of you have read the 300hp build book. anyone remember how much they had to adjust the bates cam gears to make up for the cams being off?
Once ZZP came out with their drop in ready cams, I was excited. They really made everything much easier for us. Good stuff.
Here's the link that ^ He just post HotRod Ecotec used that Comp Extreme Cams.
113200 - Cast core version Hydraulic Roller Camshafts
But MrB got much more than that! Hey Yo MrB, When You gonna do Yours ?
113200 - Cast core version Hydraulic Roller Camshafts
But MrB got much more than that! Hey Yo MrB, When You gonna do Yours ?
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Yeah, when I read that article a while back I noticed they were close if not the same as the ZZP S2 cams.
Stock cams
"the engine generated 229.5 hp at 5,900 rpm"
Custom cams
"The peak power point jumped by 700 rpm to 6,600 rpm, where the new cams generated 265.2 hp"
It seems they are using crank hp and they didnt even take the lsj to redline for the first dyno run so its invalid info. iv seen stock dyno sheets that show peak power on the lsj at around 6400-6500 so its around 500ish rpm short of making its peak power.
"the engine generated 229.5 hp at 5,900 rpm"
Custom cams
"The peak power point jumped by 700 rpm to 6,600 rpm, where the new cams generated 265.2 hp"
It seems they are using crank hp and they didnt even take the lsj to redline for the first dyno run so its invalid info. iv seen stock dyno sheets that show peak power on the lsj at around 6400-6500 so its around 500ish rpm short of making its peak power.
Not custom cams. Reading>you. Off the shelf blower grind. Only thing "custom" was they were ground on lsj blanks instead of l61.
The whole point, anyway, is that a 40+HP gain from cams is completely reasonable, especially on a setup that has much more air to expell (ie-small pulley).
A grind like mrB's is going to have a huge gain.
The whole point, anyway, is that a 40+HP gain from cams is completely reasonable, especially on a setup that has much more air to expell (ie-small pulley).
A grind like mrB's is going to have a huge gain.
Are you stupid? Quote from the very article you linked.
"The listed catalog part number is intended for most normally aspirated Ecotecs that use dissimilar-length cams, and won't fit the LSJ head, so as of this writing, the LSJ version is a custom-order part."
You also didnt address the fact that they didnt take the car to redline on stock cams, the whole thing is inaccurate since they didnt do the test correct to start with.
"The listed catalog part number is intended for most normally aspirated Ecotecs that use dissimilar-length cams, and won't fit the LSJ head, so as of this writing, the LSJ version is a custom-order part."
You also didnt address the fact that they didnt take the car to redline on stock cams, the whole thing is inaccurate since they didnt do the test correct to start with.
as for the grind they used as long as the lsa was 110 or above it would work fine
as for the testing it was done correct have you thought why they stopped at 5900 maybe that's were the the cams fell off on the stock tune due to lack of injector and the tune so why keep beating a dead horse
Btw the correct answer was zero. Comp has the lsj figured out now. Have for a long time. It's just not advertised.