stage 2

 

And I have another question, if companies have problems in the past and rectify them doesnt that show a good company, I havent heard anything negative about ZZP at all. You have to give some credit they are a decent company and I havent had a problem in dealing with them. and The same goes with OTTP....

and in regards to comparing ottp's stage one to ZZP's stage 2, unless you have had both you cant really comment on the other. If you like what you have great thats what counts but to talk **** about something you haven't tried is bullshit and is honestly the biggest problem with this community

 

You are still reading the dyno graphs wrong. MIN and MAX don't mean minimum and maximum runs. They mean the minimum reading and maximum reading for each run. The MAX AFR numbers don't mean anything because the pulls start before the AFR richens for PE. All you have to do is look at the AFR curve. It it around 11.6-11.7 for most of every pull on both graphs.

 

ZZP, I have a question regarding your advertising of your Stage 2 kit as better than GM's. I notice that you have dynos of your kit comparing it to a stock car and then w/ the 3.0" & 3.1" pulleys, but did you compare it to a GM2 car? It's possible I just missed it, but you guys showed a gain of 25whp (from 213 to 238 correct?) while the GM kit claims a gain of 40 (205 to 245). I understand that GM's numbers are all out of whack to begin with, because we all know that there is no such thing as an SS/SC that would dyno ONLY 205 bhp, but I would hope that they would at least present us with an accurate GAIN value. I was just curious.

Also, if you guys are looking, I know of an LSJ owner who could be ZZP's version of hatrickstu--and he only lives a few miles from you

 

lol @ zzp's version of hatrickstu. I highly doubt this random guy is running mid 12s with his balt.

 

Our stage 2 kit is very similar to GMs.

Both kits give you a smaller pulley, PCM, injectors. Ours has the option of 3.0 or 3.1 where there's is only 3.1.

Our PCM has a higher rev limiter, annoying codes removed, and a much flatter fuel curve. The fuel curve on a GM stage 2 flash is pretty bad. Our kit is easier to upgrade because GM keeps the multec 2 connectors for injectors. Then there's the price. We're 1/2 of a GM kit.

 

GM's stage 2 kits give you a pcm? I thought they just flashed you a new tune.

 

when he said PCM, i think he just meant a tune

 

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