200whp N/A?
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k&n filter
ebay CAI
2.4tb
2.4intake mani
lsj injectors
stg 2 comp cam
78lb valve springs
shaved cyl head .020"
ngk laser iridium IX plugs
OTTP longtube 4-1 header (1.75" primaries)
OTTP catless DP (3")
Clear image 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow resonator and "muffler"
lightweight alt pulley
running on amsoil signiture series 0w30 oil
runs on 92 octane shell vpower
7500rpm redline
Road tuned by Vince
To come over winter putting me well in the low-mid 200's will be full port and polish cyl head and a dyno tune by vince
k&n filter
ebay CAI
2.4tb
2.4intake mani
lsj injectors
stg 2 comp cam
78lb valve springs
shaved cyl head .020"
ngk laser iridium IX plugs
OTTP longtube 4-1 header (1.75" primaries)
OTTP catless DP (3")
Clear image 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow resonator and "muffler"
lightweight alt pulley
running on amsoil signiture series 0w30 oil
runs on 92 octane shell vpower
7500rpm redline
Road tuned by Vince
To come over winter putting me well in the low-mid 200's will be full port and polish cyl head and a dyno tune by vince
Last edited by NWAE Cobalt; Dec 7, 2010 at 07:29 PM.
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just power making stuff / related:
k&n filter
ebay CAI
2.4tb
2.4intake mani
lsj injectors
shaved cyl head .020"
ngk laser iridium IX plugs
OTTP longtube 4-1 header (1.75" primaries)
OTTP catless DP (3")
Clear image 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow resonator and "muffler"
lightweight alt pulley
running on amsoil signiture series 0w30 oil
runs on 92 octane shell vpower
Road tuned by Vince
To come over winter putting me well in the low-mid 200's will be full port and polish cyl head and a dyno tune by vince
k&n filter
ebay CAI
2.4tb
2.4intake mani
lsj injectors
shaved cyl head .020"
ngk laser iridium IX plugs
OTTP longtube 4-1 header (1.75" primaries)
OTTP catless DP (3")
Clear image 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow resonator and "muffler"
lightweight alt pulley
running on amsoil signiture series 0w30 oil
runs on 92 octane shell vpower
Road tuned by Vince
To come over winter putting me well in the low-mid 200's will be full port and polish cyl head and a dyno tune by vince
I could see about driving my GA to his neck of the woods... and if he can keep up, I'd believe it. 
If he's taken it to the track (and can actually do decent passes) you can estimate it...
I don't know why Zoomer would say this - I mean if he is in any way a vendor wouldn't the ideal position be that of supporting people and giving suggestions on how to pull it off?
Ok, I'll restate what think you would have to do to pull it off, and it can be summed up in three points;
compression + gas + flow
Here's an updated list of what I bleieve would be needed to pull it off;
done.
neutral balance shafts wouldn't hurt either... would free up the engine to spin better...
shaft delete and cams with a 8krpm profile would be needed.
this is all assuming 2.2 displacement
If he's taken it to the track (and can actually do decent passes) you can estimate it...
I don't know why Zoomer would say this - I mean if he is in any way a vendor wouldn't the ideal position be that of supporting people and giving suggestions on how to pull it off?
Ok, I'll restate what think you would have to do to pull it off, and it can be summed up in three points;
compression + gas + flow
Here's an updated list of what I bleieve would be needed to pull it off;
- If you don't have a nicely ported L61 head, then swap in an LSJ head (the better flowing the easier this power level will be to make)
- 10:1 compression ~ but 11:1 would be even better. stock is 10.0:1, so higher is needed. 11.5:1 i'd say, or maybe 13.0:1 if you can get meth
- I don't have a clue what any ecotec injectors are rated at, but (iirc) if you get ones with something rated around 40lbs, you should have room to spare w/o maxing out the injectors
- Ported LE5 intake ~ or custom one suited to match, or flow better than the cylinder head
- A shorty header & high flow exhaust (long tube header would be even better though) long tube is needed IMO
- Stage III or better cams
- Custom tune
done.
neutral balance shafts wouldn't hurt either... would free up the engine to spin better...
shaft delete and cams with a 8krpm profile would be needed.
this is all assuming 2.2 displacement
oh ya, stg 2 cams and 78 lb valves springs should be added to the list...my bad
talked to the dyno owner on the way home, he is going to give me a call the next opening he has and I will get 3 runs in.
talked to the dyno owner on the way home, he is going to give me a call the next opening he has and I will get 3 runs in.
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we shall see soon enough, but i think you all will be surprised lol
and btw, just because your all being such pesimists....who is paying for my dyno if i hit 200
and btw, just because your all being such pesimists....who is paying for my dyno if i hit 200
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I wonder how well a velocity stack would work on these cars. They are proven to add 3-5whp on hondas all day. These cars use MAF sensors though so you need to tune for it but I think you could see some more power with that added on too.
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velocity stack on the end of the intake would probly help yes.
you have basic intake and exhaust mods and off the shelf cam's. your'e not going to see 50+ whp with that.
as i said, maybe with more extensive exhaust work, and some head work you might be staring down the 200's. but as it sit's currently, no way.
you have basic intake and exhaust mods and off the shelf cam's. your'e not going to see 50+ whp with that.
as i said, maybe with more extensive exhaust work, and some head work you might be staring down the 200's. but as it sit's currently, no way.
velocity stack on the end of the intake would probly help yes.
you have basic intake and exhaust mods and off the shelf cam's. your'e not going to see 50+ whp with that.
as i said, maybe with more extensive exhaust work, and some head work you might be staring down the 200's. but as it sit's currently, no way.
you have basic intake and exhaust mods and off the shelf cam's. your'e not going to see 50+ whp with that.
as i said, maybe with more extensive exhaust work, and some head work you might be staring down the 200's. but as it sit's currently, no way.
Im also running slightly higher compression due to the shaved head and "off the shelf cam"...umm...it was designed the way it is for a reason...and cams reaaaaaaally arent an "off the shelf" item...if they were alot more people would have them.
Ive already shown around a 50whp improvement over stock, and that was a ways back with a bad AFR. they guy that owns the dyno and a race team commented last time that every point of AFR running rich is equal to approx 10whp....and i was 2+ points rich last time....
you guys are all funny with your "u cant do it"...we know for a fact it will be higher then 180, id say min 190 but more then likely above 200whp
and if you sooooooo sure...put some money on it then smarty
with all those mods youl make less whp than a civic with an intake
id consider a 200whp 2.2 cobalt a sleeper tho. and fun to drive. what it really needs is better gearing like the newer civic si's have. thats why they are so quick for a n/a 4 banger.
id consider a 200whp 2.2 cobalt a sleeper tho. and fun to drive. what it really needs is better gearing like the newer civic si's have. thats why they are so quick for a n/a 4 banger.
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meh. i'm not sure y your'e getting butthurt over it all buddy.
oh, btw, cam's are an "off the shelf item" if they're mass produced and not custom made for a specific build. i wish you nothing but the best, i have roughly the same hope's for my car. i just know i'll need more than cams, intake and exhaust mods.
oh, btw, cam's are an "off the shelf item" if they're mass produced and not custom made for a specific build. i wish you nothing but the best, i have roughly the same hope's for my car. i just know i'll need more than cams, intake and exhaust mods.
meh. i'm not sure y your'e getting butthurt over it all buddy.
oh, btw, cam's are an "off the shelf item" if they're mass produced and not custom made for a specific build. i wish you nothing but the best, i have roughly the same hope's for my car. i just know i'll need more than cams, intake and exhaust mods.
oh, btw, cam's are an "off the shelf item" if they're mass produced and not custom made for a specific build. i wish you nothing but the best, i have roughly the same hope's for my car. i just know i'll need more than cams, intake and exhaust mods.
and thank you, i agree its mass produced, but its mass produced because the specs they use for it works...once i do a FULL motor build ill get a custom set, but the cost to very little that i would gain isnt worth it esp since the car isnt 100% done yet.
as for the power, it is either there or within single digits of it...i garuntee it. I hope you the best of luck with your build too.
ya, our gearing kinda sucks...may have to change that someday :P
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when youve spent the time and money on the car, go out and drive it, hang with the cars you do, and get the comments you do on the car, and then people online treat it like its jut another car that has **** for nothing done...then youll understand
and thank you, i agree its mass produced, but its mass produced because the specs they use for it works...once i do a FULL motor build ill get a custom set, but the cost to very little that i would gain isnt worth it esp since the car isnt 100% done yet.
as for the power, it is either there or within single digits of it...i garuntee it. I hope you the best of luck with your build too.
ya, our gearing kinda sucks...may have to change that someday :P
and thank you, i agree its mass produced, but its mass produced because the specs they use for it works...once i do a FULL motor build ill get a custom set, but the cost to very little that i would gain isnt worth it esp since the car isnt 100% done yet.
as for the power, it is either there or within single digits of it...i garuntee it. I hope you the best of luck with your build too.
ya, our gearing kinda sucks...may have to change that someday :P
i was simply stating my opinion that i don't believe you'll hit 200 with your current mod's. that doesn't mean it's not going to happen. simply that i personally will believe it when i see it.
wow Tom, not feeling the love here now are you?
I think that hte first part of blue cavy's post is key here;
Also, if people are going to be so doubtful, and it's an expense you'ld like to avoid, I'd say don't bother dynoing, because there will always be doubters.
I think that hte first part of blue cavy's post is key here;
... as for people on the interwebz saying what they will. who care's? it's your car, if you enjoy it that's all that matters. ...
and ya, I enjoy the car, there is a reason that despite all the nay sayers I keep building it :P
even the dyno op said i was kinda crazy (not that i wouldnt see my numbers...just crazy for doing it haha). he pointed out the downfalls of a high reving HP N/A and the cost. I told him why I was doing it and he shrugged and said :to each his own: lol (he owns a drift team and a full shop lol...he is all about teh turboz)
and ya...the dyno is more of a baseline to see what kind of numbers a full ported and polished head and tune will give me
crank that thing to at LEAST 9000 rmp redline. otherwise your going to fall short. n/a 4 bangers make all their power up top. you just need to make sure you upgrade the valves, springs, and retainers to handle that. if a n/a 1.6L honda can get 200whp, im pretty sure a 2.2 ecotec could.
crank that thing to at LEAST 9000 rmp redline. otherwise your going to fall short. n/a 4 bangers make all their power up top. you just need to make sure you upgrade the valves, springs, and retainers to handle that. if a n/a 1.6L honda can get 200whp, im pretty sure a 2.2 ecotec could.
I plan on building the block to handle 9k rpm, custom cam, all upgraded valve train, lsj head swap, balance shaft removal, stroked, bored, high compression, etc...for right now i just need something to get me by