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Umm.. NO.. The quicker you can get out of the hole, the faster you will be going when you reach the finish line. If anything it will be about the same..
explain to me why my car trapped 94 when i made my 15.08 but a few runs before on my 15.2 run i was trapping 96-97 my 60' was 2.405 on the faster run and 2.5-2.7 on higher et runs and how ss/sc's are trapping 94 or so and getting mid 14's with 2.1 60's
Yes we put it at 7.2K
Higher 60s do mean your spinning, but how the hell do you pick up more speed if your tires are spinning?!?
I think what you are meaning is this: (only an example not actual numbers)
Run 1: 60'= 2.0 1/4= 15.00 Trap speed= 85mph
Run 2: 60'= 1.8 1/4= 14.80 Trap speed= 88mph
Now I know these numbers are nothing like any car I've ever driven but just look at what you have here. On the first run tires spun and got a slow 60' and everything else. Run 2 the tires hooked and the car had a better everything. Although I see where you are coming from, just because you have a slow 60' does not mean your going to have a higher Trap.
I think what you are meaning is this: (only an example not actual numbers)
Run 1: 60'= 2.0 1/4= 15.00 Trap speed= 85mph
Run 2: 60'= 1.8 1/4= 14.80 Trap speed= 88mph
Now I know these numbers are nothing like any car I've ever driven but just look at what you have here. On the first run tires spun and got a slow 60' and everything else. Run 2 the tires hooked and the car had a better everything. Although I see where you are coming from, just because you have a slow 60' does not mean your going to have a higher Trap.
from my older runs
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You don't want to spin a lot.
Your trap speed can be 10 mph faster but your time is .5 second slower. (EX)
Ultimately you want time not speed.
You will come off the line faster "speedwise" spinning tires, but you wasted time spinning the tires.
IIRC
You need balance Kyle not one over the other, faster traps and lower ETs. Bof ov dem.
Your trap speed can be 10 mph faster but your time is .5 second slower. (EX)
Ultimately you want time not speed.
You will come off the line faster "speedwise" spinning tires, but you wasted time spinning the tires.
IIRC
You need balance Kyle not one over the other, faster traps and lower ETs. Bof ov dem.
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i'll post up some more of my slips when i get home .......
.)NWAE Cobalt, 14.951@94.65 w/ 2.347 60' I/IM/C/TB/H/DP/CD/E/ST/T/SM/WR/P Timeslip VID
2.)dmoney8187, 14.971@92.99, w/2.252 60', coupe, manual, I/H/DP/E/TB/IM/T/WR/SM/ST Timeslip PIC
even look at that ... better 60 ft lower trap and you beat him by .02 / thats not alot
1.) redssna,14.83@93.97 w/2.20 60',coupe,5-speed,I/H/DP/E/T/ST
2.) Dunkinuts,14.87@93.26 w/2.26 60',coupe,5-speed,I/SM/ST Timeslip Video
i'm in here talking things that i'm surprised no one else has confirmed or denied cept you and 1 other person
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ok, here is an argument for what i think they meant. say a 3500lb, 1000whp car can run a 8.50@155mph well you put street tires on that car and it will run a slower time but have a ridiculous trap speed for that time, why? cuz it was spinning them off the whole way down the track
that is what i feel they were tryin to get out about traction/mph in 1/4et and yes elecblue ur right with what youre saying but it seems you two are debating at different perspectives. altho i may have just been the one to interpret it wrong
and to do a more realistic one, my car went 15.734@89.89 most 2.2 going that fast have lower e/t as i was spinning 1st n 2nd (stock)
that is what i feel they were tryin to get out about traction/mph in 1/4et and yes elecblue ur right with what youre saying but it seems you two are debating at different perspectives. altho i may have just been the one to interpret it wrong
and to do a more realistic one, my car went 15.734@89.89 most 2.2 going that fast have lower e/t as i was spinning 1st n 2nd (stock)
ok, here is an argument for what i think they meant. say a 3500lb, 1000whp car can run a 8.50@155mph well you put street tires on that car and it will run a slower time but have a ridiculous trap speed for that time, why? cuz it was spinning them off the whole way down the track
that is what i feel they were tryin to get out about traction/mph in 1/4et and yes elecblue ur right with what youre saying but it seems you two are debating at different perspectives. altho i may have just been the one to interpret it wrong
that is what i feel they were tryin to get out about traction/mph in 1/4et and yes elecblue ur right with what youre saying but it seems you two are debating at different perspectives. altho i may have just been the one to interpret it wrong
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i know. it just seems like youre saying what i am and it seems like tom is tryin to say lower 60s mean higher trap cause car has the power to pull both (if the traction is there)
AND YOU BETTER MAKE IT TO THE MEET! lol
AND YOU BETTER MAKE IT TO THE MEET! lol
hahahaha... but too much traction can slow you down lol
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you cant compare two diff cars like that cause i get my power at diff times then him...i could suck first 60' but because i have a more powerful car pick it up inthe top end.,...
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yea true, i had that problem with droppin psi too much lol so experience from my car i got it to run a 15.2 with bald snow tires with k&n drop in.... impressive?
get slicks and launch in ur powerband LOL!!!
get slicks and launch in ur powerband LOL!!!
Last edited by o3nisoaso3; May 18, 2009 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
looks at last run.... looks at 60... looks at et... looks at trap... (assumes this is the one you let off ) .. ummm sooo you had a worse 60' and the same trap .. if this is in facct the one you let of thanks for proving my point lol if not then nm lol
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its wierd, cuase with me, my first run the other day i had a 2.4 60', trapped 87 (couldnt hit 4th gear) and had an et of 15.15
later i had a 2.3 60', trapped 94, and had an et of 14.95
later i had a 2.3 60', trapped 94, and had an et of 14.95
umm you said you couldn't hit 4th so there was no way you could get over 87... that shows nothing lol i'm just confused
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it shows that speed has jack **** to do with et, i was trapping 95 and 94 all night and the week before expect for that run and was getting anything from a 14.95 to a 15.7....with 60' times for anything between a 2.3 and a 2.7........you have no basis for your argument lol
it shows that speed has jack **** to do with et, i was trapping 95 and 94 all night and the week before expect for that run and was getting anything from a 14.95 to a 15.7....with 60' times for anything between a 2.3 and a 2.7........you have no basis for your argument lol