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Old 05-18-2009, 10:55 AM
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Nice times. Let's put some boost on it
Old 05-18-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
no... higher 60s mean you're spinnign .. spinning means you're going to pick up more speed.. so i meant exactly what i said ..
Umm.. NO.. The quicker you can get out of the hole, the faster you will be going when you reach the finish line. If anything it will be about the same..
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Originally Posted by OBZ
Umm.. NO.. The quicker you can get out of the hole, the faster you will be going when you reach the finish line. If anything it will be about the same..
... what .. noo higher 60's make for higher traps ...

explain to me why my car trapped 94 when i made my 15.08 but a few runs before on my 15.2 run i was trapping 96-97 my 60' was 2.405 on the faster run and 2.5-2.7 on higher et runs and how ss/sc's are trapping 94 or so and getting mid 14's with 2.1 60's
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
i believe we put mine at 7200
Yes we put it at 7.2K

Originally Posted by elecblue06
no... higher 60s mean you're spinnign .. spinning means you're going to pick up more speed.. so i meant exactly what i said ..
Higher 60s do mean your spinning, but how the hell do you pick up more speed if your tires are spinning?!?

I think what you are meaning is this: (only an example not actual numbers)
Run 1: 60'= 2.0 1/4= 15.00 Trap speed= 85mph
Run 2: 60'= 1.8 1/4= 14.80 Trap speed= 88mph

Now I know these numbers are nothing like any car I've ever driven but just look at what you have here. On the first run tires spun and got a slow 60' and everything else. Run 2 the tires hooked and the car had a better everything. Although I see where you are coming from, just because you have a slow 60' does not mean your going to have a higher Trap.
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idk maybe i'm on crack all the sudden lol

from my older runs


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Old 05-18-2009, 01:13 PM
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You don't want to spin a lot.
Your trap speed can be 10 mph faster but your time is .5 second slower. (EX)
Ultimately you want time not speed.
You will come off the line faster "speedwise" spinning tires, but you wasted time spinning the tires.
IIRC
You need balance Kyle not one over the other, faster traps and lower ETs. Bof ov dem.
Old 05-18-2009, 04:30 PM
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and btw...the ss/sc is trapping at 99-100mph nd mid 14s...
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
and btw...the ss/sc is trapping at 99-100mph nd mid 14s...
thats just confirms my point lol
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
thats just confirms my point lol
how does that confirm your point...you were saying they trapped lower....
your just in here talking nonsense
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
how does that confirm your point...you were saying they trapped lower....
your just in here talking nonsense
dude.. you said he 99-100 and was in mid 14's look at the stock lsj times int the 1/4 mile thread.... they're trapping 97-100 but not one of them is above a 14.4

i'll post up some more of my slips when i get home .......

.)NWAE Cobalt, 14.951@94.65 w/ 2.347 60' I/IM/C/TB/H/DP/CD/E/ST/T/SM/WR/P Timeslip VID
2.)dmoney8187, 14.971@92.99, w/2.252 60', coupe, manual, I/H/DP/E/TB/IM/T/WR/SM/ST Timeslip PIC

even look at that ... better 60 ft lower trap and you beat him by .02 / thats not alot

1.) redssna,14.83@93.97 w/2.20 60',coupe,5-speed,I/H/DP/E/T/ST
2.) Dunkinuts,14.87@93.26 w/2.26 60',coupe,5-speed,I/SM/ST Timeslip Video

i'm in here talking things that i'm surprised no one else has confirmed or denied cept you and 1 other person
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ok, here is an argument for what i think they meant. say a 3500lb, 1000whp car can run a 8.50@155mph well you put street tires on that car and it will run a slower time but have a ridiculous trap speed for that time, why? cuz it was spinning them off the whole way down the track

that is what i feel they were tryin to get out about traction/mph in 1/4et and yes elecblue ur right with what youre saying but it seems you two are debating at different perspectives. altho i may have just been the one to interpret it wrong

and to do a more realistic one, my car went 15.734@89.89 most 2.2 going that fast have lower e/t as i was spinning 1st n 2nd (stock)
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
ok, here is an argument for what i think they meant. say a 3500lb, 1000whp car can run a 8.50@155mph well you put street tires on that car and it will run a slower time but have a ridiculous trap speed for that time, why? cuz it was spinning them off the whole way down the track

that is what i feel they were tryin to get out about traction/mph in 1/4et and yes elecblue ur right with what youre saying but it seems you two are debating at different perspectives. altho i may have just been the one to interpret it wrong
haha i'm just talking from experience lol if you're interpreting it wrong.. then i'm also interpreting it wrong lol
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i know. it just seems like youre saying what i am and it seems like tom is tryin to say lower 60s mean higher trap cause car has the power to pull both (if the traction is there)

AND YOU BETTER MAKE IT TO THE MEET! lol
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
i know. it just seems like youre saying what i am and it seems like tom is tryin to say lower 60s mean higher trap cause car has the power to pull both (if the traction is there)

AND YOU BETTER MAKE IT TO THE MEET! lol
hahahaha... but too much traction can slow you down lol
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you cant compare two diff cars like that cause i get my power at diff times then him...i could suck first 60' but because i have a more powerful car pick it up inthe top end.,...
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
hahahaha... but too much traction can slow you down lol
yea true, i had that problem with droppin psi too much lol so experience from my car i got it to run a 15.2 with bald snow tires with k&n drop in.... impressive?

Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
you cant compare two diff cars like that cause i get my power at diff times then him...i could suck first 60' but because i have a more powerful car pick it up inthe top end.,...
get slicks and launch in ur powerband LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
you cant compare two diff cars like that cause i get my power at diff times then him...i could suck first 60' but because i have a more powerful car pick it up inthe top end.,...
i'll post more of my slips when i get home
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gf already said i could...now i just need to buy them lol
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Here are some of my time slips.. Every trap was the same, regardless of the 60.. Ignore the 80mph trap, I let off because that was bracket racing.

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there is no 80mph slip there lol
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Originally Posted by OBZ
Here are some of my time slips.. Every trap was the same, regardless of the 60.. Ignore the 80mph trap, I let off because that was bracket racing.



looks at last run.... looks at 60... looks at et... looks at trap... (assumes this is the one you let off ) .. ummm sooo you had a worse 60' and the same trap .. if this is in facct the one you let of thanks for proving my point lol if not then nm lol
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its wierd, cuase with me, my first run the other day i had a 2.4 60', trapped 87 (couldnt hit 4th gear) and had an et of 15.15
later i had a 2.3 60', trapped 94, and had an et of 14.95
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
its wierd, cuase with me, my first run the other day i had a 2.4 60', trapped 87 (couldnt hit 4th gear) and had an et of 15.15
later i had a 2.3 60', trapped 94, and had an et of 14.95
umm you said you couldn't hit 4th so there was no way you could get over 87... that shows nothing lol i'm just confused
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it shows that speed has jack **** to do with et, i was trapping 95 and 94 all night and the week before expect for that run and was getting anything from a 14.95 to a 15.7....with 60' times for anything between a 2.3 and a 2.7........you have no basis for your argument lol
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
it shows that speed has jack **** to do with et, i was trapping 95 and 94 all night and the week before expect for that run and was getting anything from a 14.95 to a 15.7....with 60' times for anything between a 2.3 and a 2.7........you have no basis for your argument lol
dude.. if you COULDN"T get in to 4th your speed would just ride out at 87.. jezuz.. and my 60's have nothing to do with knowing the physics of it .. your ignorance is hilarious lol .. actually look through this forum and see how many people agree with me that higher 60's give you higher traps ... you keep going with your ricer math .. and find out the rude awakening when you're stuck at mid to high 14's at the same or slower trap


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