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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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What cams you go with Paul? I am really tempted to head to the Jersey meet with Al to take a look at your car. I am trying to actually buy mine back.
Iv got an empty seat or three as well
And I drove past your old car about three times last weekend
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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so im curious, is it the fact that this is a new product or is it actually really difficult to tune? or is it just a matter of figuring out your technique?
because this is deterring me from buying one in the future if you genius's (serious, no sarcasm there) are having such a difficult time ironing out the kinks.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jester
Iv got an empty seat or three as well
And I drove past your old car about three times last weekend
I actually took it for a spin today. She still scoots.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Greased
so im curious, is it the fact that this is a new product or is it actually really difficult to tune? or is it just a matter of figuring out your technique?
because this is deterring me from buying one in the future if you genius's (serious, no sarcasm there) are having such a difficult time ironing out the kinks.
The same happened with MAFTs back in the day, HPTuners and 60 lb/hr injectors and so on.

The key with this thing is it appeals to everybody that has an LSJ for the most part. You can run a bigger pulley with a stock bottom end and fuel system with some injectors and simple tuning and not have a problem. You also have an upgrade path if you want to pulley down and make retarded numbers like the ones that are fighting our fuel systems are doing.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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Witt,
Would it be safe to say that if one were to upgrade to the Walbro that Paul installed, and put in the 79# Racetronix injectors you have, that it would provide sufficient fuel for the HTV1320 @ 7000-7200 max rpms?

Paul, please PM me a price for the pump/canister setup you might plan on selling. Also do you still have that stock gutted blower for the other project we discussed awhile back? I'm still keeping my options open here, but I'd like to get a game plan going for when I get back home.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Yeah man still got that gutted blower, forgot to take it home from C/A yesterday, but it's still there, actually have 2 or 3 blown up s/c's if anyone needs one.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Witt,
Would it be safe to say that if one were to upgrade to the Walbro that Paul installed, and put in the 79# Racetronix injectors you have, that it would provide sufficient fuel for the HTV1320 @ 7000-7200 max rpms?

Paul, please PM me a price for the pump/canister setup you might plan on selling. Also do you still have that stock gutted blower for the other project we discussed awhile back? I'm still keeping my options open here, but I'd like to get a game plan going for when I get back home.
I'm handling it fine at 7000rpms with 79s and a 2.75" pulley though I am at the limit. The pump doesn't seem to be giving any issue.

Anything more though will require something to boost compensate fuel pressure.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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hey witt i hit you up with a pm....send me one back when you get a chance....and good work with the cars guys...definately making headway
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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wheeeeeeeeeeee

good info to know paul.


bryan. innovate lc1. bitch.


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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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how/ why is or would the innovate wideband be better than the aem?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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more accurate. logging software comes with it. cheaper replacement costs when the sensors go bad. doesn't say aem.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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how/ why is or would the innovate wideband be better than the aem?

The AEM is slightly less accurate than the Innovate... but where the Innovate really shines is the latency. The Innovate has the least latency of all the wideband units on the market.
Although for a gauge, latency isn't a big deal... but for tuning and logging, it's a very big deal!
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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The only thing i remember seeing for the innovate was the handheld tuner thingie...(?) Does it also come with a gauge to mount?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
more accurate. logging software comes with it. cheaper replacement costs when the sensors go bad. doesn't say aem.
Originally Posted by Omega_5
The AEM is slightly less accurate than the Innovate... but where the Innovate really shines is the latency. The Innovate has the least latency of all the wideband units on the market.
Although for a gauge, latency isn't a big deal... but for tuning and logging, it's a very big deal!
It uses the same sensor my PLX does...the 80 dollar Bosch LSU4.2 also I have yet to see anything have a better refresh rate then my m300 plx...gauge refreshes ridiculously fast and same with the logging itself.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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I need that man, my aem is wierd,, ,also from what it displays, to what is actually logged is always off... I dunno
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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is the scan rate that bad for the aem?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
It uses the same sensor my PLX does...the 80 dollar Bosch LSU4.2 also I have yet to see anything have a better refresh rate then my m300 plx...gauge refreshes ridiculously fast and same with the logging itself.
i will give the PLX props from refresh rate, but i'll put money on how accurate and refresh rate of the AEM being dam good.

i will never use, install, nor recommend an inovate unit. every one i've seen or dealt with has had issues, be it F-body or LSJ....pure garbage.

Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
I need that man, my aem is wierd,, ,also from what it displays, to what is actually logged is always off... I dunno
the gauge is different that whats logged?

let me know paul, i had the same issue and i re-wrote the EB offsets into the Scanner. fixed the issue real good.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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i have had zero issues from my lc1 innovate
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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The LC-1 is very sensitive when it comes to ground offsets. I sold mine for an AEM. I wish I didn't do that. The Innovate gauge is way sexier than the AEM's tacky LED bar/number display. I had a few minor issues with my LC-1 that frustrated me at first, but then I figured them out. By the time I figured it out, I had a buyer for it...who made out like a bandit. Hopefully he is putting it to good use.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
i have had zero issues from my lc1 innovate
this issue is caused by the lack of work done on HPT part...not AEM nor me.

assjockey.

HPT has pre-made offsets for most widebands...the one for the AEM is wrong.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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^^ I really need to get your scanner setup then. I'm using the one Paul sent me which works pretty damn good, but if yours is better I can't go wrong for asking the turbo god.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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meh, no turbo god.

dan got my into this whole mess...then i spent the next 15mo learning and reading every thing i could about turbos...how they act, react, how to pick the rite one, what variable effects what, ect.

PM me your e-mail, and i'll CC you onto the one i shoot paul.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
this issue is caused by the lack of work done on HPT part...not AEM nor me.

assjockey.

HPT has pre-made offsets for most widebands...the one for the AEM is wrong.
cumdumpster.

this is why you set it up yourself
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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LOL the plx doesnt give a **** what its grounded too...mine has power from rear cig lighter and then grounds to the black going away from the rear cig lighter...is within .1-.2 afr of the 2 dynos i had afr readings at. And its electrical taped in...black tape ftw
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
LOL the plx doesnt give a **** what its grounded too...mine has power from rear cig lighter and then grounds to the black going away from the rear cig lighter...is within .1-.2 afr of the 2 dynos i had afr readings at. And its electrical taped in...black tape ftw
I call shens on anything installed electrically in your car correctly, including the use of "black tape".
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