Lsj + mp90 dynoed!
Aww Im sorry its a Twin Vortices which has two rotating blades compared to the Eaton M90 with one. Your argument is shitty. A Turbo Cobalt with a few mods and a good tune would crush your LSJ with 5+K in it. Either way your supercharged 4 cylinder is garbage whether its an M45, M62 M90 M112 KB Twin Screw TVS etc etc etc, Turbo or broke on a 4 Cylinder that of which you do not have.
DragCar001-1.mp4 video by euthanasia662 - Photobucket
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not really sure if i would consider this a success...but i guess just looking at gains... its def better than ur old setup. as its been said ur header and whole exhaust is killing power. And the back pressure i'm willing to bet has alot to do with ur tq drop off up top...which leads to hp not going as high as it should.
not really sure if i would consider this a success...but i guess just looking at gains... its def better than ur old setup. as its been said ur header and whole exhaust is killing power. And the back pressure i'm willing to bet has alot to do with ur tq drop off up top...which leads to hp not going as high as it should.
Thats why I have these lol Nice try
DragCar001-1.mp4 video by euthanasia662 - Photobucket
003-1.mp4 video by euthanasia662 - Photobucket
DragCar001-1.mp4 video by euthanasia662 - Photobucket
003-1.mp4 video by euthanasia662 - Photobucket
I'm aware
I have a 3" DP sitting in the garage
I can't do everything at once. yesterday was the official start of what this blower is capable of. Now I need to build my car around it to support it.
Wow x2...
You must think very highly of yourself :golf clap:
IMO, not to shabby
Learned a bit from yesterdays dyno...
Pioneering is a lot of fun and is one hell of a learning experience
not really sure if i would consider this a success...but i guess just looking at gains... its def better than ur old setup. as its been said ur header and whole exhaust is killing power. And the back pressure i'm willing to bet has alot to do with ur tq drop off up top...which leads to hp not going as high as it should.
I can't do everything at once. yesterday was the official start of what this blower is capable of. Now I need to build my car around it to support it.
Wow x2...
You must think very highly of yourself :golf clap:
Learned a bit from yesterdays dyno...
Pioneering is a lot of fun and is one hell of a learning experience
Last edited by 100% METH; Dec 16, 2010 at 04:43 AM.
Aww Im sorry its a Twin Vortices which has two rotating blades compared to the Eaton M90 with one. Your argument is shitty. A Turbo Cobalt with a few mods and a good tune would crush your LSJ with 5+K in it. Either way your supercharged 4 cylinder is garbage whether its an M45, M62 M90 M112 KB Twin Screw TVS etc etc etc, Turbo or broke on a 4 Cylinder that of which you do not have.
oh?
On the contrary. There's plenty of evidence of what's going on with your car. You seem to be too stubborn to take anyone's advice. It seems as though YOU are the one thinking very highly of yourself.
I'm still interested in what you do with this project. It's a fun project I'm sure. Would be nice to have something that can make equivalent power to the TVS1320 and cost much less. I applaud your efforts. I just wish you would take that damn header off.
Believe me I'm well aware of whats going on
I have all the parts, it's just a matter of doing it.
There's a 1 3/4" ceramic coated shorty header sitting in Euthanasia's garage....
Then there's my custom made 3" catless downpipe sitting in my garage...
question is... is it worth 75 dollars for 3 pulls or $100 for an hour to do this?
Euthanasia's 05 GTO on 10 psi & w/m is pushing near 600whp & has 2.5" dps and catback. I guess I just feel the results would be lack luster, considering my time and money spent.
As always we have a very big surprise coming soon.... as if dyno numbers for a mp90 weren't enough...
I have all the parts, it's just a matter of doing it.
There's a 1 3/4" ceramic coated shorty header sitting in Euthanasia's garage....
Then there's my custom made 3" catless downpipe sitting in my garage...
question is... is it worth 75 dollars for 3 pulls or $100 for an hour to do this?
Euthanasia's 05 GTO on 10 psi & w/m is pushing near 600whp & has 2.5" dps and catback. I guess I just feel the results would be lack luster, considering my time and money spent.
As always we have a very big surprise coming soon.... as if dyno numbers for a mp90 weren't enough...
Last edited by 100% METH; Dec 16, 2010 at 06:18 AM.
Believe me I'm well aware of whats going on
I have all the parts, it's just a matter of doing it.
There's a 1 3/4" ceramic coated shorty header sitting in Euthanasia's garage....
Then there's my custom made 3" catless downpipe sitting in my garage...
question is... is it worth 75 dollars for 3 pulls or $100 for an hour to do this?
Euthanasia's 05 GTO on 10 psi & w/m is pushing near 600whp & has 2.5" dps and catback. I guess I just feel the results would be lack luster, considering my time and money spent.
I have all the parts, it's just a matter of doing it.
There's a 1 3/4" ceramic coated shorty header sitting in Euthanasia's garage....
Then there's my custom made 3" catless downpipe sitting in my garage...
question is... is it worth 75 dollars for 3 pulls or $100 for an hour to do this?
Euthanasia's 05 GTO on 10 psi & w/m is pushing near 600whp & has 2.5" dps and catback. I guess I just feel the results would be lack luster, considering my time and money spent.
Let's be honest, right now your results are lackluster at best. Other than me, you, and a few others, most are probably thinking this is very unimpressive and won't go anywhere.
Pull that crap header off, throw your beastly little shorty on(which by the way, I think will probably make more power than anything else out there if it truely does have 1.75" primaries to a 3" collector and downpipe) and go beat down the doors of 300+whp and show everyone what this thing is really capable of.
Then, go throw some E85 in the tank and see if you can get close to 350whp without even dropping pulley sizes.
I think you'll be surprised on how much boost pressure drops once you get that noodle off there and get that higher flowing shorty and downpipe on there.
Surprising as it may sound, I've owned ran 3 different headers in the near 4 year tenure I've owned this car. Point I'm trying to make is that I saw absolutely no change in boost pressure w/ a 1 3/4" to 3" collector shorty, stock manifold, and jbp noodle 1 5/8 to 3" formed collector.
What made the difference was the DP, whether it was high flow catted or catless. Whether it was 3" or 2.5", the difference was minuscule between the two. The gain was from changing to either one or the other from the terrible stock DP.
All I had to do was make 2 adjustments in my tune, and the car would of sat @ 300whp or higher yesterday. Money and time is what held me back... wish I could prove it, but you'll just have to wait.
Ralli you know we don't have E-85 locally out here! That's why I run a progressive 19gph w/m nozzle
Considering I have absolutely no experience tuning for this kind of blower and I'm facing/entering uncharted waters.
Those who see it as lack luster are ignorant for what potential is to come of this inexpensive setup.
(6500 rpm x 6.5" crank) / (3" s/c pulley) = 14083.333 S/C RPM a.k.a peak efficiency before over spinning. faaack I'm not even revving to 7000 rpm... I purposely ramp peak timing to 6400-6500 rpm and ramp down from there to make sure I shift before 6500 rpm.
What made the difference was the DP, whether it was high flow catted or catless. Whether it was 3" or 2.5", the difference was minuscule between the two. The gain was from changing to either one or the other from the terrible stock DP.
All I had to do was make 2 adjustments in my tune, and the car would of sat @ 300whp or higher yesterday. Money and time is what held me back... wish I could prove it, but you'll just have to wait.
Ralli you know we don't have E-85 locally out here! That's why I run a progressive 19gph w/m nozzle
Considering I have absolutely no experience tuning for this kind of blower and I'm facing/entering uncharted waters.
Those who see it as lack luster are ignorant for what potential is to come of this inexpensive setup.
(6500 rpm x 6.5" crank) / (3" s/c pulley) = 14083.333 S/C RPM a.k.a peak efficiency before over spinning. faaack I'm not even revving to 7000 rpm... I purposely ramp peak timing to 6400-6500 rpm and ramp down from there to make sure I shift before 6500 rpm.
Last edited by 100% METH; Dec 16, 2010 at 06:58 AM.
Yea, sucks that there is no E85 out there. I still think there is more to get from that blower though. Your tests with the different headers and downpipes puts a little twist on it. But I still think the shorty header and bigger downpipe is your best bet.
I'd imagine the shorty due to it's nature in design would extend the power band further out with the addition of the 3" catless DP.
Though how much is the question... being realistic here... The MP90 acts nothing like a TVS, it doesn't share the same centrifugal characteristics as the TVS 1320 has.
My honest opinion... the intake side needs to be reworked.
Though how much is the question... being realistic here... The MP90 acts nothing like a TVS, it doesn't share the same centrifugal characteristics as the TVS 1320 has.
My honest opinion... the intake side needs to be reworked.
Let me call kevin mcmillan again. Last I talked to him, he was going to start producing manifolds that had the higher flowing intercooler cores like the grand prixs. I know it doesn't cool as efficient, but the extra flow would negate that on most applications. Especially bigger blower applications where you are just heat stacking in the manifold.
Sweet! Though he's not the most reliable one.
I'm sure it's stacking very badly... curious how Area47's did it on a stock unported manifold.
I'd imagine a manifold that flowed more than 50hp per laminova would greatly improve power through out the entire range of the rpm band.
I'm sure it's stacking very badly... curious how Area47's did it on a stock unported manifold.
I'd imagine a manifold that flowed more than 50hp per laminova would greatly improve power through out the entire range of the rpm band.
Last edited by 100% METH; Dec 16, 2010 at 06:56 AM.
This dyno is unlike a dyno you may be used to seeing. It reads not conservatively lower, but considerably. My car stock makes 175-180whp on this dyno according to previous LSJs who've dynoed there.
You cannot compare methanol setups between turbo & supercharged applications, especially a roots @ 25psi.
You cannot compare methanol setups between turbo & supercharged applications, especially a roots @ 25psi.
Last edited by 100% METH; Dec 16, 2010 at 07:01 AM.
Holy ****. Your EGTs are probably sky ******* high. That video alone should be enough to make you want to get that header off of there.
hmmmm.......I thought he showed an increase in power with a larger pulley?
hmmmm.......I thought he showed an increase in power with a larger pulley?
Last edited by ralliartist; Dec 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost



