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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Sorry dude there's no way that air gettin sucked into the motor from right next to a 200 degree motor is 10 degrees colder than the air gettin sucked in from the fender outside the engine bay. I'm sorry there's just no way. The only reason I could come up with is that the big plastic air box trapped in all the heat from the motor. However I feel it's unlikely that you're really seeing that big of a differance. But whatever like I said in the previous post all you turbo guys think you're God's gift to cars and know every damn thing so whatever...
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Hey how come I don't see you around man. You need to come to all the meets I go to! Lovin the plate
I'm usually up in Lansing on the weekends - workin on the other car. What meets? Bakers?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
Sorry dude there's no way that air gettin sucked into the motor from right next to a 200 degree motor is 10 degrees colder than the air gettin sucked in from the fender outside the engine bay. I'm sorry there's just no way. The only reason I could come up with is that the big plastic air box trapped in all the heat from the motor. However I feel it's unlikely that you're really seeing that big of a differance. But whatever like I said in the previous post all you turbo guys think you're God's gift to cars and know every damn thing so whatever...
Blah blah blah, I'm a dirty tramp.

Most of the time I would agree with you, but it is possible and unless you have specific evidence to prove otherwise...I'll listen to the owners of an SS/TC with gauges that tell them their inlet air temperature.

Now, all that said, I am curious as to where some of you guys live because the outside temperature around here is going down dramatically. Are ya'll doing an accurate temp comparison?

My IAT's have dropped 20 degrees in a matter of 24 hours.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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I will guarantee you that if they extend that pip down into the fender they will see colder IAT's. The short ram is just N***** riggin stuff. I know one kid around my who did that and ended up having all kinda problems with boost creap and than vaccuum leaks after that. He ended up having to take it to the dealer to get his sthi fixed and his intake looked exactly like what you guys have...
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
i seen as high as 4.4 knock
A lil tuning would help . I took care of all my knock and I'm pushing about 23 PSI.

Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
I'm usually up in Lansing on the weekends - workin on the other car. What meets? Bakers?
US23 and M59 every Thursday, Woodward coming up on the 26th

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Blah blah blah, I'm a dirty tramp.

Most of the time I would agree with you, but it is possible and unless you have specific evidence to prove otherwise...I'll listen to the owners of an SS/TC with gauges that tell them their inlet air temperature.

Now, all that said, I am curious as to where some of you guys live because the outside temperature around here is going down dramatically. Are ya'll doing an accurate temp comparison?

My IAT's have dropped 20 degrees in a matter of 24 hours.
Thanks everyone for backing up. I have also been monitoring the temps with HPT and they have dropped a bit, even if its 5-10 degrees, better than the stock intake and sounds MUCH better.

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I will guarantee you that if they extend that pip down into the fender they will see colder IAT's. The short ram is just N***** riggin stuff. I know one kid around my who did that and ended up having all kinda problems with boost creap and than vaccuum leaks after that. He ended up having to take it to the dealer to get his sthi fixed and his intake looked exactly like what you guys have...
Have you not been reading all the posts? This is just temporary until someone releases a true CAI, "that goes down in the fenderwall". Have you not seen people that buy turbo kits, 75%, if not more, have the same exact setup as this, short ram. A few people, including myself, stated above in previous posts that we have been monitoring temps, and you still don't believe, something must be wrong with you.

PLUS, I just got home from a 30 min drive and popped the hood, while the car was still running, felt the filter and it was cold while the car was blowing hot air around.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Yes because everything you all post on this site is the gospil truth. Experience tells me that the short ram is not the best option and it DOES suck in hot air but like I said you all think you know everything but whatever. Not to mention the MAF is probably not sealed properly and you 're sucking in unmetered air which can cause various other issues with your motor...
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
Yes because everything you all post on this site is the gospil truth. Experience tells me that the short ram is not the best option and it DOES suck in hot air but like I said you all think you know everything but whatever. Not to mention the MAF is probably not sealed properly and you 're sucking in unmetered air which can cause various other issues with your motor...
MAF is definitely sealed properly, I made sure of that before I made the slot for it. And look who's talking about knowing it all ^^^^^^
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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i need tuned bro but every1 around here is bitches and dont want to tune me

i guess ppl dont like money now a days
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
i need tuned bro but every1 around here is bitches and dont want to tune me

i guess ppl dont like money now a days
I'd tune you if you lived around here. You should see how fast this thing is now. Can barely get it to hook up in 1st and 2nd gear, kinda won't hook in 3rd either now. Too much torque

But once you do hook up, you're gone. A Cadillac XLR was neck and neck with me today on the freeway, we got up to 145, neither of us pulled on each other . So just imagine what the numbers would look like on this car
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 07BlackSS/SC
A Cadillac SLR was neck and neck with me today on the freeway, we got up to 145, neither of us pulled on each other
SLR? :scratches head: XLR-V perhaps?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by krispy
SLR? XLR-V perhaps?
Thanks krispy, that's what I ment . I'm pretty sure it wasn't the V, now that would have killed me
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 07BlackSS/SC
Thanks krispy, that's what I ment . I'm pretty sure it wasn't the V, now that would have killed me
The normal XLR has 320 hp and weighs 3800lbs, a normal SS/TC should be able to keep up with one, you should easily be able to take it w/ tune/intake/exhaust

The V could hit 180ish, but its limited to 155
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
I will guarantee you that if they extend that pip down into the fender they will see colder IAT's. The short ram is just N***** riggin stuff. I know one kid around my who did that and ended up having all kinda problems with boost creap and than vaccuum leaks after that. He ended up having to take it to the dealer to get his sthi fixed and his intake looked exactly like what you guys have...
bt it is better than stock so it is worth it....until a reputable company releases a true fender located CAI....

Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
Yes because everything you all post on this site is the gospil truth. Experience tells me that the short ram is not the best option and it DOES suck in hot air but like I said you all think you know everything but whatever. Not to mention the MAF is probably not sealed properly and you 're sucking in unmetered air which can cause various other issues with your motor...
dude then you are what you are saying we are....your saying that its useless to argue with us b/c "we know it all" but then its really useless to argue with you b/c apparently you know it all

all my argument was is that you asked these guys to do pulls with an interceptor guage and when they did that was the proof you wanted.

but then you needed more proof....i dont know man

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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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I have an intake like original poster also. problem is now. with PPC tuner. im spiking over 30lbs of a boost. on and off the bottle ' never did that before intake and such. i should have new turbo soon enough...

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my iats are 5 or so degrees warmer at a stop/idle - and are about 10 degrees colder then stock intake while driving

' i log with a laptop ' but everyday driving i monitor with a dash hawk
That bend where the maf sensor sits doesnt help your cause. The maf sensors on the lnf engine are extremely picky about the inside diameter of the pipe and their position in the intake.
If you're going to make your own intake i suggest to place the maf as close to the cone filter as possible(just like stock) and use the same ID piping as the stock one.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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nice

Nice job ive got just about the same exact thing except i need a new filter. I cut my old AEM intake right where the MAF is and put the filter on one end and it works nice. not sure how much boost im gettin cause i havent ripped it yet but it sounds awesome. I think i might head to PEP boys and buy some more tubing and try to make a cold air intake
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
Yes because everything you all post on this site is the gospil truth. Experience tells me that the short ram is not the best option and it DOES suck in hot air but like I said you all think you know everything but whatever. Not to mention the MAF is probably not sealed properly and you 're sucking in unmetered air which can cause various other issues with your motor...
Logic tells me that air flows through the grille, etc., through a fan, over the engine and out the back of the hood. How is it getting so hot under there to affect temperatures THAT much? you make it sound like it stays as hot as it would be if it was just sitting there, if that was the case you are right. You also have to understand air is coming from the front of the car as well as up the fenderwell, given its not as efficient as a fenderwell intake would be but its definitely better than stock.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by laserblue2006
bt it is better than stock so it is worth it....until a reputable company releases a true fender located CAI....



dude then you are what you are saying we are....your saying that its useless to argue with us b/c "we know it all" but then its really useless to argue with you b/c apparently you know it all

all my argument was is that you asked these guys to do pulls with an interceptor guage and when they did that was the proof you wanted.

but then you needed more proof....i dont know man
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Logic tells me that air flows through the grille, etc., through a fan, over the engine and out the back of the hood. How is it getting so hot under there to affect temperatures THAT much? you make it sound like it stays as hot as it would be if it was just sitting there, if that was the case you are right. You also have to understand air is coming from the front of the car as well as up the fenderwell, given its not as efficient as a fenderwell intake would be but its definitely better than stock.
Thank you guys! **cough cough** Tazmanian_Dvl
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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also unless you remove the fog light you are not necessarily getting more flow so i dont know
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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looks great, and ya cant beat the bang for the buck
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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looks great, and ya cant beat the bang for the buck
Thanks You have more pics of those headlights?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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i change to a K&N filter my IAT2's went from 77s constant down to 75 and under
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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i change to a K&N filter my IAT2's went from 77s constant down to 75 and under
Nice, but I bet your MAF is going crazy. I know mine was and I had to adjust it. I get my AEM Dryflow Filter tmw
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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has anyone tried one of these?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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has anyone tried one of these? [ig]http://cobalt-addiction.com/products/pages/cai_images/frontmount_large1.jpg[img]
For the love of god, please don't.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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HAHA! But it included a cover so water doesnt get in!!! GENIUS!

Can any of the SS/SC intakes be made to fit on the SS/TC?

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