Upgrade from GM coming soon!
also, people are seeing crazy gains with JUST a tune, the problem is you lose your warrant, i'm sorry but if I have the GM kit and a catted downpipe yet dyno 10-15whp less than your Hahn or HPtuner tuned car with an OR downpipe, I really won't be all that upset, knowing I still have a warranty...
the only way to get arround this i am told, is put a clamp on the signal back to the ecm for the map sensor. by lowering voltage back you can then run whatever psi you wish, ex: 26psi and you will not exceed the end of the table @ 225kg, although the downside to this "clamping" is the whole fuel table is thrown off and must be tuned appropriately. its time consuming.
by getting the stage kit not only do you get the upgraded psi sensors but by factory only you get a extended fuel table file via download and flash, and that alone is what holds us back from making the higher numbers, so yes as explained you can get around this but the gm kit will not only look better but also reduce headaches in the long run.
for more on map clamping i would suggest posting on hptuners forums. and please dont bring your attitude to the hpt forums, everyone there is very nice and most of the time willing to help with the whatever is causing you trouble.
From the Solstice forum


Information made available today to Pontiac dealerships shows:
Stage Kit for LNF Turbo Engine
Ready-for-sale Date
MY 07/08 = 12/15/2008
MY2009 = Early 09CY (assumes no additional CARB certification testing)
Comments
*Adds 30 HP to the Turbo engine (290 vs. 260)
*Adds 65 Lb-ft of torque (325 vs. 260) for auto trans.
*Adds 80 Lb-ft of torque (340 vs. 260) for manual trans.
*Kit includes sensors, wiring harnesses, and calibration changes
*Plus Install time = 1 hour
*Fits both Coupe & Roadster
*Requires premium fuel
Stage kit for LNF Turbo - Warranty Clarification
*If customer takes delivery of stage kit with new vehicle purchase, warranty on stage kit is equal to the new vehicle powertrain warranty.
*If customer takes delivery of stage kit after new vehicle purchase, warranty on stage kit = 12 months/12,000 miles or the remaining new vehicle warranty, whichever is longer.
*Installation of stage kit does NOT void new vehicle/powertrain warranty.
*Warranty is void if kit is used for racing.
Stage Kit for LNF Turbo Engine
Ready-for-sale Date
MY 07/08 = 12/15/2008
MY2009 = Early 09CY (assumes no additional CARB certification testing)
Comments
*Adds 30 HP to the Turbo engine (290 vs. 260)
*Adds 65 Lb-ft of torque (325 vs. 260) for auto trans.
*Adds 80 Lb-ft of torque (340 vs. 260) for manual trans.
*Kit includes sensors, wiring harnesses, and calibration changes
*Plus Install time = 1 hour
*Fits both Coupe & Roadster
*Requires premium fuel
Stage kit for LNF Turbo - Warranty Clarification
*If customer takes delivery of stage kit with new vehicle purchase, warranty on stage kit is equal to the new vehicle powertrain warranty.
*If customer takes delivery of stage kit after new vehicle purchase, warranty on stage kit = 12 months/12,000 miles or the remaining new vehicle warranty, whichever is longer.
*Installation of stage kit does NOT void new vehicle/powertrain warranty.
*Warranty is void if kit is used for racing.
correct the charge psi sensor will see 255kg when 22.5 psi is reached. the fuel tables all happen to end exactly at 225kg so by going to 23psi you have just gone into a zone where there are absolutely no values, thus the computer will disregard the psi sensors input and go into limp home mode, it must see over 225kg for 3 sec before limp home mode is activated.
the only way to get arround this i am told, is put a clamp on the signal back to the ecm for the map sensor. by lowering voltage back you can then run whatever psi you wish, ex: 26psi and you will not exceed the end of the table @ 225kg, although the downside to this "clamping" is the whole fuel table is thrown off and must be tuned appropriately. its time consuming.
by getting the stage kit not only do you get the upgraded psi sensors but by factory only you get a extended fuel table file via download and flash, and that alone is what holds us back from making the higher numbers, so yes as explained you can get around this but the gm kit will not only look better but also reduce headaches in the long run.
for more on map clamping i would suggest posting on hptuners forums. and please dont bring your attitude to the hpt forums, everyone there is very nice and most of the time willing to help with the whatever is causing you trouble.
the only way to get arround this i am told, is put a clamp on the signal back to the ecm for the map sensor. by lowering voltage back you can then run whatever psi you wish, ex: 26psi and you will not exceed the end of the table @ 225kg, although the downside to this "clamping" is the whole fuel table is thrown off and must be tuned appropriately. its time consuming.
by getting the stage kit not only do you get the upgraded psi sensors but by factory only you get a extended fuel table file via download and flash, and that alone is what holds us back from making the higher numbers, so yes as explained you can get around this but the gm kit will not only look better but also reduce headaches in the long run.
for more on map clamping i would suggest posting on hptuners forums. and please dont bring your attitude to the hpt forums, everyone there is very nice and most of the time willing to help with the whatever is causing you trouble.
ive tuned a few lsj's
i own a lnf but when i get to tuning that i will be screwed haha
i dont know anything about tuning it specifiacally like hpt tables and that stuff
i will push to understand it though
correction to previous descriptive post, table maxes out at 255kpa
i own a lnf but when i get to tuning that i will be screwed haha
i dont know anything about tuning it specifiacally like hpt tables and that stuff
i will push to understand it though
correction to previous descriptive post, table maxes out at 255kpa
ive tuned a few lsj's
i own a lnf but when i get to tuning that i will be screwed haha
i dont know anything about tuning it specifiacally like hpt tables and that stuff
i will push to understand it though
correction to previous descriptive post, table maxes out at 255kpa
i own a lnf but when i get to tuning that i will be screwed haha
i dont know anything about tuning it specifiacally like hpt tables and that stuff
i will push to understand it though
correction to previous descriptive post, table maxes out at 255kpa
Clamping the two map sensors should work in theory and shouldn't be any harder to tune at all since the maf is reporting the correct airflow, the pressure in those sensors doesn't really matter.
denying coverage to me for racing to me is otherwise they can talk to my lawyer
A: caught by police racing
B: having your car towed from a race track or dragstrip cause you blew somethin up.
C: not wiping the numbers off your back windshield when you complain about your LSD not working anymore
but yes if you run your car at a track NLSing all the time, you really cant expect warranty coverage, but i believe that spirited backroad driving shouldnt make equipment fail.
A: caught by police racing
B: having your car towed from a race track or dragstrip cause you blew somethin up.
C: not wiping the numbers off your back windshield when you complain about your LSD not working anymore
but yes if you run your car at a track NLSing all the time, you really cant expect warranty coverage, but i believe that spirited backroad driving shouldnt make equipment fail.
the lsj runs beautiful around 11.3-11.5 safe
11.5-11.7 ***** on the wall
i just need to know what i have to aim for
i figured out the boost controll under the desired air load section
i need to set the afr to to good spot and then timing is easy and i will be hurting a little on cams lol dont know squat on adjusting those.
what is the afr range for the lnf?
the lsj runs beautiful around 11.3-11.5 safe
11.5-11.7 ***** on the wall
i just need to know what i have to aim for
i figured out the boost controll under the desired air load section
i need to set the afr to to good spot and then timing is easy and i will be hurting a little on cams lol dont know squat on adjusting those.
the lsj runs beautiful around 11.3-11.5 safe
11.5-11.7 ***** on the wall
i just need to know what i have to aim for
i figured out the boost controll under the desired air load section
i need to set the afr to to good spot and then timing is easy and i will be hurting a little on cams lol dont know squat on adjusting those.


