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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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I like this...thank for adding another thing to my todo list..lol

I also am goin to be building a totaly different suspension for my cobalt after my car becomes the weekend racer again.lol
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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pwnd by Jatetr.

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I wouldn't say that
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Now its a party. Lol
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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I wouldn't say that
I am shocked.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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Can't we all agree to disagree on the NBS subject?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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not tryin to argue, just pointing out the build book and what i have expirienced.

not trying to start an arguement or trash up the OPs thread
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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you can not sustain rpms above 7500 on stock shafts. over time after repeated runs {drag racing} to 8k rpms it will elongate the bearings and you will run into issues later on down the road.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjolley
Just cuz its possible to rev a engine to 8k dosnt mean its safe.
I myself have had issues with zzps NB shafts.
What issues did you have with them?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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nice build and great read! only read the OP so far
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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nice build and great read! only read the OP so far
Thanks man, you need to check out my FS thread btw
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
I am shocked.
bull **** your shocked lol

Originally Posted by Hockeyman
Can't we all agree to disagree on the NBS subject?
were not arguing were discussing

Originally Posted by JapEatr
not tryin to argue, just pointing out the build book and what i have expirienced.

not trying to start an arguement or trash up the OPs thread
2 things you need to have for the engine to live at high rpm ops is a better balancer and nbs

Originally Posted by Area47
you can not sustain rpms above 7500 on stock shafts. over time after repeated runs {drag racing} to 8k rpms it will elongate the bearings and you will run into issues later on down the road.
when the bearing elongates you will run into a loss of oil pressure which will lead to a seizure of the balance shaft or shafts or main or rod bearing carnage and possibly block destruction

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What issues did you have with them?
he had a zzp nbs seize up in the block
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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wish there was an electric water pump option that bolted in place of the stock WP cavity
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Why does the ATI have to be so damn expensive.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Why does the ATI have to be so damn expensive.
Look at it this way....

A popped motor would be more expensive
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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Why does the ATI have to be so damn expensive.
that's the one thing I wish i had as well. Definitely will have one in the future.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Look at it this way....

A popped motor would be more expensive
lmao
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Look at it this way....

A popped motor would be more expensive
I'm one of the last people you need to tell that to lol. It's on the list. Until then, lower revs.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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must have
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Just like NBS or delete
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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full circle...
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Lol well really. How many people have spun their motors with stock balance shafts? Lots. How many people have spun their motors with the stock damper? Lots. You say an ATI is a must have but NBS or delete isn't because of a technicality in the build book, yet GM sells them for a reason. Comes down to the chances you take and if you're willing to take it.

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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:37 PM
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whats the part number on those keystones?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
What issues did you have with them?

Well lets say one seized and caused the chain to snap..
I dont think zzp took into consideration that the oem ones r hardened and ground and there's is just steel..the expansion and contraction rates r totaly different between the 2..i think it expanded and locked up against the bearing. I couldn't get it out to see exactly wat happened.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjolley
Well lets say one seized and caused the chain to snap..
I dont think zzp took into consideration that the oem ones r hardened and ground and there's is just steel..the expansion and contraction rates r totaly different between the 2..i think it expanded and locked up against the bearing. I couldn't get it out to see exactly wat happened.
Huh that's interesting. Did you ask them about it?
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