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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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I was looking into getting the Snow performance meth injection kit but i was looking around and i have so many questions on it... I want to run it in my trunk. E85 is not available in Jacksonville Florida.
1. Is the pump strong enough to pump meth from my trunk up to my throttle body? If not do i need that solenoid upgrade?
2. Where is the best place for meth to be injected? Throttle body or after supercharger?
3. Where is the best place to install the tank and pump if the pump is not strong enough to reach?
4. Is meth injection safe? Everything i read a lot does say it is safe but then there are a few people that post it is bad for the charger.
Recommendations on brands if anything is better than snow? Thanks for the help
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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1) Yes
2) Post TB pre supercharger
3) When I ran meth I put the pump behind the right headlight and tapped into my washer tank for less plumbing. But it's not necessary.
4) It's safe as long as it doesn't quit and you don't catch it. Taking precautions like a pressure switch and setting an Interceptor to KR so you can keep an eye on it definitely help. I ran meth for 4 years and never had any supercharger issues. I like Devilsown systems myself.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:51 PM
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I tapped into my washerfluid bottle and have my pump just below the drivers headlight. I've got the Snow maf stage 2 kit injection before tb after intercooler. Had my kit almost 3 years
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Thanks for the help. Did you get the 2.5 bar stage 2 kit? or the DVC-30 stage two? I did see pictures you had posted on how you did that but you can use meth injection as a windshield washer fluid as well? Do you make your own out of windshield washer fluid and a couple bottles of heet or just buy the pre made stuff?
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blk&ylw
Thanks for the help. Did you get the 2.5 bar stage 2 kit? or the DVC-30 stage two? I did see pictures you had posted on how you did that but you can uIse meth injection as a windshield washer fluid as well? Do you make your own out of windshield washer fluid and a couple bottles of heet or just buy the pre made stuff?
Right now I'm using -40 washer fluid because its cold here so I need washerfluid more than I need the injection. In the summer I mix my own with distilled water and methyl hydrate
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
1) Yes
2) Post TB pre supercharger
3) When I ran meth I put the pump behind the right headlight and tapped into my washer tank for less plumbing. But it's not necessary.
4) It's safe as long as it doesn't quit and you don't catch it. Taking precautions like a pressure switch and setting an Interceptor to KR so you can keep an eye on it definitely help. I ran meth for 4 years and never had any supercharger issues. I like Devilsown systems myself.
Blu do you think its bad if it kicks on when not in boost? It happened to me and i was misfiring like a bitch. Pulled the line and limped it home to change the plugs and oil. Scary as hell
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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I'm not blue but i'll give you my input......

There's no reason for it to kick on when you're not in boost... It's gonna be rich as hell. Not a very good thing. Kind of depends how long it was spraying to determine if it could have hurt anything
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Im having a hard time finding the post earlier that i had saw bluelighting post. When you drill a hole in the bottom of the windshield wiper tank what did you use to put inside that hole like connector and what kind of sealant did you use on that? I cant seem to find that post now
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blk&ylw
Im having a hard time finding the post earlier that i had saw bluelighting post. When you drill a hole in the bottom of the windshield wiper tank what did you use to put inside that hole like connector and what kind of sealant did you use on that? I cant seem to find that post now
I just used an epoxy to seal it and make sure it didn't loosen
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Originally Posted by riceburner
Blu do you think its bad if it kicks on when not in boost? It happened to me and i was misfiring like a bitch. Pulled the line and limped it home to change the plugs and oil. Scary as hell
No it's not good. But luckily you caught it in time before any damage occurred.

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Im having a hard time finding the post earlier that i had saw bluelighting post. When you drill a hole in the bottom of the windshield wiper tank what did you use to put inside that hole like connector and what kind of sealant did you use on that? I cant seem to find that post now
I know devilsown has a nice piece that you drill a hole, stick in the pick up and as you tighten it it seals from the back side as well. Super clean.

Self Sealing Bulk Head
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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It was spraying full while not in any boost for a good 30 seconds before i could pill it
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Well you did the right thing by changing the oil. And it didn't hydro lock so you're good.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:22 PM
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I have snow performance with 2.5 gallon tank and pump all mounted in trunk. Spraying before tvs from 10lbs of boost and up. Good kit
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Well you did the right thing by changing the oil. And it didn't hydro lock so you're good.
I keep thinking i should do atleast new valves with my build to be safe

Not the first time waters gotten in the intake thats for damn sure
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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I keep thinking i should do atleast new valves with my build to be safe

Not the first time waters gotten in the intake thats for damn sure
If you had a valve issue from water/meth flooding your motor your car wouldn't run. You would have bent valves or rod.

Josh will lap your valves after he's done porting it for a good seal.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 02:06 AM
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With an engine that's running you could spray that kit 100% of the time and not hydro lock it. Let it spray when the engine is not running and all bets are off. In fact you can rev an engine then hit it full blast with a garden hose to break up the carbon and it won't hurt it. It really freaks people out to see it done but it works great. Old trick that works but the naysayers scare most away. When you do the math there is not much water that makes it in each cylinder when it's reved.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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Lol tell that to people that have hydro locked their motors driving through puddles with CAI's or air box mod. If you aren't at wot and your pump is running it will shut down the motor. I've had it happen. No damage though.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
I have snow performance with 2.5 gallon tank and pump all mounted in trunk. Spraying before tvs from 10lbs of boost and up. Good kit
What size nozzle do you use?
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Lol tell that to people that have hydro locked their motors driving through puddles with CAI's or air box mod. If you aren't at wot and your pump is running it will shut down the motor. I've had it happen. No damage though.

Enough water to completely block all airflow to the engine long enough for vacuum to be held on the water all the way up to the intake

does in no way equal

5-7 gallons per hour of finely atomized, (read it would most likely fit through your air filter finely atomized) water being sprayed.

I've had three gallons per hour of spray running on a 8.5:1 660cc engine with a MAP sensor sensing full boost and dumping fuel, without stalling or bending anything.

At least 3 liters made it in.

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Originally Posted by shaman
Enough water to completely block all airflow to the engine long enough for vacuum to be held on the water all the way up to the intake

does in no way equal

5-7 gallons per hour of finely atomized, (read it would most likely fit through your air filter finely atomized) water being sprayed.

I've had three gallons per hour of spray running on a 8.5:1 660cc engine with a MAP sensor sensing full boost and dumping fuel, without stalling or bending anything.

At least 3 liters made it in.
Ya you're right they make hydro shields for our cars for fun. Search on here and you will see it happens more than you think.

Would fit through our air filter finely atomized? We don't run pre air filter. It's usually pre throttle body, post throttle body, post supercharger or direct port injection. No kidding it wouldn't flood your motor going through an filter first. And 3gph is nothing to spray. I sprayed 14gph in my supercharger set up post throttle body. And yes you can hydro lock a motor with meth.

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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Ya you're right they make hydro shields for our cars for fun. Search on here and you will see it happens more than you think.

Would fit through our air filter finely atomized? We don't run pre air filter. It's usually pre throttle body, post throttle body, post supercharger or direct port injection. No kidding it wouldn't flood your motor going through an filter first. And 3gph is nothing to spray. I sprayed 14gph in my supercharger set up post throttle body. And yes you can hydro lock a motor with meth.

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Holy 14gph? I was running 9.5 gph and thought that was way too much
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A few on here have run 24gph dual nozzle set ups. Welcome to the big boy club haha.
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
A few on here have run 24gph dual nozzle set ups. Welcome to the big boy club haha.
WOW! What kind of setups did they have? How much hp? Do superchargers take more?
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