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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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The melted aluminum is poured into a styrofoam mold in the shape of the block, then melts away as the aluminum hits it, but before it does it cools enough to take the shape. Its called "lost foam" casting and is used on most large AL castings now due to price and simplicity. The LSJ heads are sand cast, not foam, but all the N/A motors use this same procedure on the head casting as well.
so is that why lsj's are better for f/i and more power?
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
The melted aluminum is poured into a styrofoam mold in the shape of the block, then melts away as the aluminum hits it, but before it does it cools enough to take the shape. Its called "lost foam" casting and is used on most large AL castings now due to price and simplicity. The LSJ heads are sand cast, not foam, but all the N/A motors use this same procedure on the head casting as well.
Pull you valve cover and take a close look at your head - it is foam cast as well.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Pull you valve cover and take a close look at your head - it is foam cast as well.
As already stated, the LSJ heads are sand cast, not foam cast.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
I am thinking you are my age Bill, where I need to where glasses when I look at smaller things.

The area in the circles indicate the impact points.


Ah, that would explain why the chamber looks 'pushed out': it was crushed from the front side due to those impacts.

And the impact points suggest it took two hits from different directions. Frankly, it seems almost impossible that something could have hit it that hard, and from two different directions, during shipping...it looks somewhat like the engine was dropped at some point and its own weight caused the damage. That is, unless the shipping company has someone with a sledgehammer going after Ecotec engines! But again, we can only assume they used standard care and caution...there's no telling what actually happened between points A and B. Who knows what mischief and/or incompetence may have really occurred!

I wouldn't even trust this block once "repaired". As someone mentioned, there could be further unseen damage.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Ah, that would explain why the chamber looks 'pushed out': it was crushed from the front side due to those impacts.

And the impact points suggest it took two hits from different directions. Frankly, it seems almost impossible that something could have hit it that hard, and from two different directions, during shipping...it looks somewhat like the engine was dropped at some point and its own weight caused the damage. That is, unless the shipping company has someone with a sledgehammer going after Ecotec engines! But again, we can only assume they used standard care and caution...there's no telling what actually happened between points A and B. Who knows what mischief and/or incompetence may have really occurred!

I wouldn't even trust this block once "repaired". As someone mentioned, there could be further unseen damage.
This has crossed my mind several times actually.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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slap some JB Weld on there and you'll be fine..... maybe some duct tape. "if you can't duct it, **** it and if you can't **** it, duct it"

sorry to see your going thru this. hope all works out for you.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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shipping insurance could cover possibly?

either way it looks like an external hit
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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slap some JB Weld on there and you'll be fine..... maybe some duct tape. "if you can't duct it, **** it and if you can't **** it, duct it"

sorry to see your going thru this. hope all works out for you.
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shipping insurance could cover possibly?
either way it looks like an external hit
We are dealing with them right now. I too hope it works out and quickly.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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rod you can come down and drive my car boss, its no rwd monster, but its quick!

sorry to hear this man, let me know if i can be of any help.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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rod you can come down and drive my car boss, its no rwd monster, but its quick!

sorry to hear this man, let me know if i can be of any help.
Can you tie knots and do you have any strong rope???
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Can you tie knots and do you have any strong rope???
NOOOOO dont do it you can have my race lsj block. sorry its imaganary idk if that works for your application
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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NOOOOO dont do it you can have my race lsj block. sorry its imaganary idk if that works for your application
Right now, an imaginary race block is more real than my good luck.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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lol well ill ship it usps then?
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Can you tie knots and do you have any strong rope???
sure do, and sure can!

boy scout in the house!!!!

we'll go hang the owner / operator of the shipping co.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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lol well ill ship it usps then?
Okay. Ship it to

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Originally Posted by 06black
sure do, and sure can!

boy scout in the house!!!!

we'll go hang the owner / operator of the shipping co.
I was thinking more for the moron who started this project.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Okay. Ship it to

MoronsRus
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I was thinking more for the moron who started this project.
that moron is a god amongst us humble cobalt owners.

I've been fortuneit enough to work around cars such as your, as you know, but to own and drive one....we'll thats a whole new ball game.

i'd be much more on my fab shops **** over the length of time that things have been drawn out across.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Okay. Ship it to

MoronsRus
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I was thinking more for the moron who started this project.
will do should be in the mail by wednesday
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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that moron is a god amongst us humble cobalt owners.

I've been fortuneit enough to work around cars such as your, as you know, but to own and drive one....we'll thats a whole new ball game.

i'd be much more on my fab shops **** over the length of time that things have been drawn out across.
I get to Toronto tomorrow morning, 7 am. I head off to the hotel for 3 hours of sleep and then I am off to start dealing with the shops. I have 4 days there to express my displeasure. I will not be fun to be with during those meetings. The time has come.

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will do should be in the mail by wednesday
Thanks.

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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rock on brother man.

good luck, and as always, let me know if i can be of any assistance.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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can i call ya and listen to you lay into them?
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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rock on brother man.

good luck, and as always, let me know if i can be of any assistance.
I will need a car to drive while I am in Toronto. How fast can you get there.

And thanks as always.

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can i call ya and listen to you lay into them?
I should try to borrow my friends voice recorder

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Thanks.
man i whished that was your real address i was gonna send you soemthing lol
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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man i whished that was your real address i was gonna send you soemthing lol
I was making it easier for the imaginary race block to get to.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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gotcha. ill let you know when it goes out
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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I bed it slid while it was being lifted by a forklift. I'd be willing to bet on it. I'll even bet it happened before it left JBP.
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