Question about injectors for you guys...how well do yours sit in the head? It seems like my injectors wont stay in place unless the fuel rail is bolted down. It would seem that the injectors would get to a certain point and then seal into the head but mine don't?

 

hey jerry, would you like to see how mine fit in? I could make a video of me taking them out and putting them back in so you can see how it differs from yours. Although mine are 60's. Would you rather see 42's?

 

They seemed to sit in pretty good, or at least the outside ones did...I imagine the middle ones are in, though...I had Lucas #42s, though.

 

42 plz!

My main concern really is if you feel that they fit snug afer a certain point or if they just kinda sit there with thm pressure from the fuel rail holding them in place...

 

I don't know about the rest of the 2.2's, but mine have these little grommets that go in first. Then you insert the fuel rail. The fuel rail goes in and all nicely, without any issues for me. My tech friend said to oil the seals on the grommets and injectors before installing.

 

I had really big O-rings that went around the bottom (kinda like grommets, yes). I oiled those up, as well as the O-rings that went into the rail.

 

i use vasoline on mine

i had to pull them out recently since i had a wiring issue and been having troubles getting the damn things to seal right

i didnt lube the rings that go in the fuel rail though! will do that...

 

I was told not to use vasoline...I think.

I just used some 5W-30 Pennzoil I had laying around...

 

Well, well well...

I've been investigating my original supercharger here now.

The member I bought it from, blue 2.2, says that he didn't install it on their car at any point, because he lost his job. However, he gave me the username of who he bought it from, which is "powerz".

So, I began to look into it...

Here's the original sale thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/parts-66/s-c-kit-more-f-s-120919/

I dug a little deeper into threads started by Powerz, and found this one: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/supercharger-rotors-112865/

Check out the last post:

Rebuilding a supercharger is not a cheap ordeal...


And then members on MIfbody found these pictures in Powerz' Gallery...




Some of the rotor ends look like they do in the picture, but not the rest...

Now back to who I bought it from...

In the original thread: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/parts-66/supercharger-parts-151160/

They state:

I'm pretty sure a mechanic would have noticed the marks you can see on the rotor ends...I'll be sure to take pictures of them when I get it off my car.

And also, I recall, they were originally selling it because they needed a new transmission - not because they lost their job, though I'm sure both could've been possible.

The kit also came with a tensioner, Filler-T and cap, a large heat exchanger hose and the full Injector harness - none of which were included...

In the PM to blue 2.2 about this:

I have to reiterate - that supercharger oil I drained was NOT new. New SC oil is clear, and running the car for 5 minutes is not enough to turn it to that murky black/brown that it was in. So either A) the SC oil was never changed like Powerz said it was, or B ) blue 2.2 ran it on his car...

But with the marks on the rotors, I'm wondering if this "powerz" just recoated the rotors, or didn't fix the bearings, which are likely shot...

Anybody have any observations I didn't catch?

The big question is: who screwed who and/or who's lying to me.

 

That is a bad situation.

The person I bought my supercharger from was very picky and described every detail about the supercharger and said not to worry that he just changed the oil.

I got it and took the paint off with Acetone and then shipped it out to the powdercoater. When I got it back I decided to change the oil and the oil was black.

Now, did the person I bought it from lie to me or did it get black from going through the powedercoating heating process?

 

i got mine from ebristol...great guy, shipped it damn fast...i only read up until the pics of the rotors..wowzers

looks like powerz screwed blue2.2, who than ran into monatary issues and sold it unknowingly of what the damages were..since he never installed it, although idk how u miss all that damamge on the rotors, could be blue passed down the loss to you...and he tried to make up for his own loss

 

Yep. I'm gonna see how much Magnuson will pay me for the core.

 

nice...prob not much...u could delete the rotors and sell it to a LDL looking to turbo while maintaining the look of a sc

 

i had no clue about it being messed up it was never put on my car and was never takin apart and i sold it cause i lost my job and couldnt afford to put a new tranny in my car and still afford the payments on my car at the same time so it had to go like i said in the pm i sent you im sorry for this i had no clue

 

Then it's pretty much final that powerz screwed the both of us...

So I was talking to my friend - and he was telling me that at WOT, I should be running around 12.5 AFR?

...no wonder I was popping lean codes. It was running stoich everywhere...and about 18 sometimes when I'd close the blade...

 

no you should be richer than that

my target AFR is 11.7 and I hit around 11.7-12.0 under boost

I don't get why someone would sell a rebuilt SC with "0" miles on it in the first place...thats suspicious

i have a similar situation but not as expensive to replace...I've had to do the hammer mod on my IC pump like 6 times in the month I've had it

 

12.5 on a sc car is lean it will blow up in the wintter..u want 11.5-12

 

I kept trying to talk all of you guys out of getting a used one. They are selling used for like 40 and I got a new one for $89.95. It is well worth it.

Vince told me 11.5-12.5 at WOT is what was optimal.

 

i'll have to take you up on that price soon...I'm too poor right now.

 

Hopefully Vince is aware of that. He should be...

 

yeah when i was working with vince i wanted mine 11.5-12...yes u can go higher than 12 if you want to squeeze every last drop of pwr

 

Yeah, I don't want a lean-out, especially in the winter.

 

Ha-ha, I was just poking fun and trying to do a "I told you so."

He is. Today he told me he wants me to richen up a little down from the 12.0 - 12.3 range to 11.7 - 12.0

 

Got my new supercharger!

Looks very good - almost brand new!

Man - I never realized how ported the first one is...I can't wait to take comparison pics...

 

Very nice!Cant wait to see pics of it on