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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Please don't tell me you took the TB apart. I think it is more of a wiring issue than the TB being physically stuck!
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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i had that problem 3 weeks ago while tuning my car, i unplugged the throttle body and took the battery off for 15 minutes
reflashed the pcm and bam presto worked after that
yeah i would try that if i was him
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Please don't tell me you took the TB apart. I think it is more of a wiring issue than the TB being physically stuck!

I got it open and fixed a gear inside the TB

Also my no spark issue has been fixed, only to learn that my timing is off, compression test showed 30 across the boards

Im taking tonight off as work was pretty rough, ill be in the garage about 8 am and should have it done by early evening

I am just wondering if i can do a timing job with the motor i the car, or if im going to have to pull it again, any input on this is welcome

And to the flamers stay out of my thread if you dont have anything to say postive and dont ever dare ask me a question about anything as one of you has already done.

I am a very nice person but am not going to be flamed and them act buddie buddie with you in a pm or on AIM
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Please don't tell me you took the TB apart. I think it is more of a wiring issue than the TB being physically stuck!

I got it open and fixed a gear inside the TB

Also my no spark issue has been fixed, only to learn that my timing is off, compression test showed 30 across the boards

Im taking tonight off as work was pretty rough, ill be in the garage about 8 am and should have it done by early evening

I am just wondering if i can do a timing job with the motor i the car, or if im going to have to pull it again, any input on this is welcome

And to the flamers stay out of my thread if you dont have anything to say postive and dont ever dare ask me a question about anything as one of you has already done.

I am a very nice person but am not going to be flamed and them act buddie buddie with you in a pm or on AIM
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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I hope it was a matter of something in the way and not that you repositioned the Throttle Plate. The TB sits at 35% when no power/input is being supplied to it.
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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no it now sits at 35 % it as 7% off
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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You can time the engine with the motor in the car still. Use that link I sent you about the cam sensor, and the timing should also be in there. If not in that link, use the GM build book. In one of the sections it gives a great write up. It took two people to get the timing right. I had to have my buddy use two wrenches, one on each cam, and they had to be turned inward slightly toward each other to get the cams in the right place. I then double checked to make sure I was at TDC where I left it when I took the head off. Then I attached on cam gear and placed the chain on top of it. I then took the other cam gear and slid it into the chain and onto the cam using the bolt to line it up. It took a couple times to get it right as we were a tooth off the first couple times.

Since you do not have marks, this may be a little more difficult. You'll have to use the build books methods with the chain marks which will require so many rotations to get the chain where it needs to be to do the job.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Cant wait for the inevitable,"It fired up!!!" I just wanna see a video or hear a sound clip of it.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:52 AM
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If the engine is an interference motor (IE Valves Can Touch Pistons) you probably need new valves if the motor was far out of timing..

The timing makes sure that the valves close as the piston arrives at TDC.

The Porsche that I have is an interference motor. If the timing belt goes, so does the entire motor..
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
If the engine is an interference motor (IE Valves Can Touch Pistons) you probably need new valves if the motor was far out of timing..

The timing makes sure that the valves close as the piston arrives at TDC.

The Porsche that I have is an interference motor. If the timing belt goes, so does the entire motor..
to the best of my knowledge this is not an interference motor
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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to the best of my knowledge this is not an interference motor
If that's the case, the motor is probably more than fine.. Awesome!
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Too all the naysayers and flamers, I say to you:

The cat will kick your ass, so shut up.


Once again I say, good luck bdwarr, I hope that engine starts spinnin soon.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Damn, I wish I could help you out more than providing internet info. If I could go to your house and give you a hand, I think we could have her up and running in about a hour or two max. I'm really anxious to see the project get rolling finally here.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_SS
to the best of my knowledge this is not an interference motor
I don't know if it is an interference motor or not but my bet is that it is. I would put money on it. there is not many engines out there that is not and being the level of performance the ECOtec is the valves surely would hit.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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The timing is off by one tooth, o if it is interferance which i belive it is im not worried, i have spun it around plenty of times nothing hitting, the blue chain links at to the left of the notch and not right on top of them, I still havent started, just woke up was really tired and now about to go see james bond
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bdwarr6
The timing is off by one tooth, o if it is interferance which i belive it is im not worried, i have spun it around plenty of times nothing hitting, the blue chain links at to the left of the notch and not right on top of them, I still havent started, just woke up was really tired and now about to go see james bond
screw the movie get your car runnin lol
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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hey, happy 1 week anniversary!

also, i hated james bond! didnt stand up to the name at all...its like they are trying to change the feel of the movie from the usual action packed awesomeness!

departed, on the other hand, was long, but pretty good. lots of head shots
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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damnit your not allowed to take breaks... get back to work man... you got too many people waiting in suspense now.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
damnit your not allowed to take breaks... get back to work man... you got too many people waiting in suspense now.
No kinding. Bond isnt going to fix your car for you.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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bd just wanted to drop in and say ive been following your threads for a few weeks now and its great your gonna rebuild this bitch yourself! Where in indy are you located as maybe i could give ya a hand timing the motor, plus i wouldent mind seeing your balt as i cant seem to find any near me =P
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Evilfrog
No kinding. Bond isnt going to fix your car for you.

Ive got so much time into this project im trying to keep from getting burnt out, now after the movie i feel much better, you guys must understand i am a very social person and i havent spoken to literaly anyone in about a month now due to my car LOL

so im going to get started, ill work pretty decent now
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Evilfrog
No kinding. Bond isnt going to fix your car for you.
No but MacGyver can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGyver
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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So if you remove the motor mount and lower the engine ou have access to the timing case, just i broke a cam sprocket so i have to wait till wensday to put it in!!!!



DAM YELLOW DEVIL
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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How do you break a cam sprocket?
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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yellow cobalts are cursed man... just ask the LI guys



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