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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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The car I helped build in Cali did something close. They attempted to port the intake manifold and ruined the cores. The cores were leaking bad, and the motor was just sucking in coolant. I don't know we didn't hydro lock it. Just down the street and it went through a gallon. Take the blower off and there would be a puddle about 4-5 inches deep with just water, it was filled.

But we drove the car around for a long time once it ran dry, and even once we re-filled it.
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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its cause of your fuel map theres a nasty hole...thats why your unloading in 3rd
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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okay, got a question for you SUPER KNOWLEDGEABLE GUYS. Sorry to thread jack blown but since you are running your car dry sump, it does kind of have something to do with your car.

orginally blown cars didn't have "cooling" like we do. All they ran for "cooling" was water/meth injection. So would our cars make more power if the intake manifold was just hollowed out? as in just ditching the cooling?

I know it would mean that you get hot quicker, and that you couldn't necessarily make 10million interstate pulls. But there are daily driven blown cars with no cooling. I know of a blown mustang in omaha. Hell, even the GTP grand prix's didn't come with any type of cooling. So what's stoppin us from ditching the laminovas and picking up TONS of air flow. Hell, there might not even be a need for the rediculously small pullies anymore.

Just me randomly thinking.
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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If you want to run the M62 hard for any amount of time you'll need something to keep the intake charge cool. I believe Frazier and Blown are just talking about around town, driving like aunt Mabel, kind of driving. I'm sure the reason the GTP's don't have an aftercooler is because of the difference in blowers. The stock GTP blower is not pushed near as hard as the M62 is from the factory. I'm sure you'll notice that a lot of the modded GTP's are running meth injection or some sort of cooling method. I'm sure it's fine for driving like grandma but definitely not something worthwhile if you're pushing the limits of the car.

I'd like to see someone hollow the stock intake (or better yet create a custom one) and use a plate type cooler over the supercharger mating surface (almost like the dry nitrous carb plates, exactly like the new Mustang Rousch supercharger intake manifolds) instead of the stock laminovas. I think it's really hindering the capability of the car and even the stock M62. Granted, forced induction can afford a little more resistance in the intake tract but there are still gains to be had there. I'm not sure if it's even plausible, just random thoughts in my head.
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTL61
its cause of your fuel map theres a nasty hole...thats why your unloading in 3rd
Heh. Funny.
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BAPerformance
If you want to run the M62 hard for any amount of time you'll need something to keep the intake charge cool. I believe Frazier and Blown are just talking about around town, driving like aunt Mabel, kind of driving. I'm sure the reason the GTP's don't have an aftercooler is because of the difference in blowers. The stock GTP blower is not pushed near as hard as the M62 is from the factory. I'm sure you'll notice that a lot of the modded GTP's are running meth injection or some sort of cooling method. I'm sure it's fine for driving like grandma but definitely not something worthwhile if you're pushing the limits of the car.

I'd like to see someone hollow the stock intake (or better yet create a custom one) and use a plate type cooler over the supercharger mating surface (almost like the dry nitrous carb plates, exactly like the new Mustang Rousch supercharger intake manifolds) instead of the stock laminovas. I think it's really hindering the capability of the car and even the stock M62. Granted, forced induction can afford a little more resistance in the intake tract but there are still gains to be had there. I'm not sure if it's even plausible, just random thoughts in my head.
Its actually aunt Silvia in my case but yes, I never go more than 1/2 throttle, or 3200 rpm. I might hit 9 psi for a fraction of a second getting on the freeway, but other than that its 99% of the time in vacuum or less than 4 psi. So there isn't really a need for a charge air cooler... cause there isn't any charged air. Also, we didn't port the area where the cores go, we ported the openings of the intake flange, because the openings of the intake flange were a smaller diameter than the intake port itself (yeah we ported the **** out of the head ). I'm just going to set aside an entire day to take off the manifold, figure that **** out, and get in there and install the damn thermostat. I'm sick of driving around at 145 coolant temp in rush our traffic
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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isnt 170 IAT2 really high for temps
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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So basically you built you car and spent all that money... To drive like your aunt sally?

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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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So basically you built you car and spent all that money... To drive like your aunt sally?
Basically, yes. For now at least. I'm so broke I can't even drive it. I have no gas, and no money to buy gas. So yes, until I get some more money its staying as is for now. It sucks, but keep in mind, I didn't drive her for 17 months! So just being able to drive it awesome! Plus it still has the wicked "cammed" idle we all love 2 guys in a evo were gonna try to race me from a dig, we came to a stop and my car was sitting there thumping along, and I could hear the passenger say "He's cammed! **** that!" It was awesome!
Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Basically, yes. For now at least. I'm so broke I can't even drive it. I have no gas, and no money to buy gas. So yes, until I get some more money its staying as is for now. It sucks, but keep in mind, I didn't drive her for 17 months! So just being able to drive it awesome! Plus it still has the wicked "cammed" idle we all love 2 guys in a evo were gonna try to race me from a dig, we came to a stop and my car was sitting there thumping along, and I could hear the passenger say "He's cammed! **** that!" It was awesome!
true true... no money... no nothing

well at least you got her running again!
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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So today, we took the manifold off to install the little brass rings I left out of the intercooler core, and found that the rubber o-rings were fucked. After searching for replacement o-rings with no success we threw the old ones back in. Didn't work the best but it was definitely better than it was before. So, threw some 100 octane in it, after bleeding the intercooler, went out, and drove the **** out of it. Totally untuned, running 15 degrees of timing with the 2.6" pulley. I'm still trying to figure it out, but the son of a bitch was running 24 psi boost!!! Pulled like a ***** though. 0-60/70 mph was pure tire spin, once it hooked up, it seemed to haul up to 112 mph in the blink of an eye. PCM is still ignoring the O2 sensor, but it was running a steady 11.3 afr at WOT. I was only shifting at like 6700, but it was pulling way hard up to the shift. The car is going to be a freakin beast once its tuned. I tried to find my camera, but couldn't so I didn't get videos, sorry. Oh, and on those pulls, I had 2 friends in the car!!!
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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um. special ed. you have a restriction somewhere in your manifold. you should NOT be running 24psi. stop it, you will do more damage again.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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agreed
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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well there is no restriction though. I had the manifold off the car not an hour before the runs! the exhaust is unrestricted too!
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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maybe the cams u put in have caused this increase in boost??

ive heard that happened to another guy on this forum a whiles back
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Boost /= power.

Something in the top end IMO.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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there IS a restriction somewhere. there is no way in hell you should be running 24psi on a 2.6 with a fully ported head. lower the lsa on the cams.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Any misfires or anything? Perhaps stuck valve? Check for a rocker that might of came off, happened to me.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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you didn't pull an alpha did you?
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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you didn't pull an alpha did you?
Iono what happened. I guess when putting the top end together for the 6th time I finally put a rocker on crooked. Didn't break it though, just 1 happen to roll off the valve.

Boy did she miss with just that 1 intake valve not opening.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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i bet its the cam........
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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i bet its the cam........
That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to start blaming it. Custom cams for custom wrong.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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bwhahahahahha

use the cam gears and work the lsa.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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24psi...... o boy im going to close my eyes and pretend i didnt see that.
Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Yeah for more boost then a stock head 2.6 LSJ

i dont think you have any overlap...



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