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Thanks Cole. Hows "the suck"?

 

sucks, hahaha. will be in falujah in october.

so your coming out with the fender kit to trunk mount kit conversion. sweet. im loving the upgrade options you guys are providing. always one step ahead of the game

 

Falujah is going to suck. Hopefully you don't get fapped out on the streets or BS like that. That place is a **** hole for real. What MAG are you going with? I was out there right when the war kicked off from Feb-October 2003. Good luck out there.

Rodney

 

how does the meth injection compare to the cryo 2 system i have seen a lot more people using the meth injection then the cryo 2. Is the meth more effective?

 

No comparision at all. Cryo 2 works on cooling the outside of the piping or heat exchanger while water methanol injection works inside directly with the air charge.

We have had customers who have used systems on only a handful of cars and only saw a slight difference in air charge temps with it.

Additionally, cryo 2 type systems are not going to provide any added octane enhancement as water methanol injection will. Furthermore, it does nothing to reduce combustion chamber temperatures, egt's, etc. Without getting into to much detail...there's no comparison between the two. Water methanol injection offers far more benefits then a Cryo 2 system will ever.

 

cry02 systems require you to disassemble the tank. take it in, have it refilled, install it again, use it for certain amount of runs then repeat.

get the meth kit and you can have your own water/meth mix at home, fill it when you want, don't have to disassamble anything, lasts a long time, can tune for it, etc... plus its hundreds of dollars cheaper even if you do get a stage 2 meth kit.

I don't know who we are falling under. I just wanna do my time and get the hell out of there

 

I just wanna know when i'll get my kit?

 

Sure thing. Pm us the name on the order.

 

thanks for the info guys it was really helpful

 

Have you ever put a gauge on your pump and measured the actual pressure it produces?

 

just taking a guess, since the pump itself is already maxed at 150psi when it pushes meth, wouldn't that give you without a doubt that its fully using the 6gph nozzle?

 

Only a handful of times have we actually ran a pressure gauge just to see what pressure was. Building 150 psi with our pump is not a problem with a single 6 or even two 6's. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Rodney

 

Let us know if you have any questions or how we can help.

Rodney

 

www.AlcoholInjectionSystems.com

 

Your low level float switch?? I am looking at the Stage 1 trunk kit. Pretty basic as far as drilling a hole into the tank for switch and wiring the power. What would one use though for a warning light or something?

 

My best advice I can give you on this is DON'T use the low level sensor. Unless you use a sealant compound like GOOP it will vibrate lose and eventually leak. My best advice is not to drill a hole in the tank at all and you will never have this problem. Besides the tank holds 1.5 gallons. Depending on your driving that will last you 2-4 weeks. Plenty of time to check on it and refill it.

Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

Rodney

 

What do you mean by "relocating the check value from the rear behind the nozzle"?

 

Normally our trunk mount kits come with the check valve mounted on the pump outlet. When installing the nozzle(s) just before the throttle body and not after, the check valve will hold the line primed. Anytime you install the nozzle after the throttle body you must have the check valve placed directly behind it to prevent any fluid from being siphoned out of the hose.

Rodney

 

www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com

 

Hey! With any luck I'll be taking delivery of my 09 SS Sedan tomorrow. Friday the 10th.
I've been reading a lot about E85 fuel. The ability to run it in practically any new engine, specifically the Saab 2.0 Turbo, and it's value in adding horsepower in and of itself. I understand about it not actually MAKING horsepower just by putting it into the tank but by controlling pre-ignition (knock)allowing other engine mods that would knock the engine to death. What I'm understanding about water/methanol injection is it does about the same thing but using different technology. Can you comment on the GM engine warranty ramifications of using water/met. injection? I'm hungry for knowledge. Educate me.

Thanks, Bill

And by BTW your trunk mount system is the most interesting water/meth. system I have seen on line. It's on my A list.

 

Hi Bill,

Adding the water methanol injection by it's self should not effect your warranty. It would be others mods such as increasing boost over factory settings or changing the tune which would more then likely effect your warranty if something were to happen to the motor.

You'll need to check with your dealer for questions concerning your warranty.

Rodney

 

I didn't see this asked so if it's a repeat I apologize. I realize spraying before the supercharger is ok, but what about the intercooler? Is there a chance of puddling at the lower areas of the intake or not dispersing the water/meth evenly?

I have a cavalier with a water/meth setup and the cobalt/ion supercharger parts on my car. I've made a best pass of 12.77@112mph and I've been contemplating running a distribution block and drilling the manifold after the intercooler cores with one nozzle in each cylinder.

My concerns are that the nozzles would be very close to the combustion chamber and might not allow for proper atomization. Also a change in injector would be difficult to change, more expensive and change are limited as you'd increase in multiples of 4.

For anyone else running water/meth. Does it actually cool your supercharger? Since I installed mine, even when I ran 14 second passes or 12 second passes the charger has always been hot to the touch. I've only ever ran a 3gph nozzle so maybe I should go bigger? I've heard others with the m45 s/c setup on a cavalier that their charges stay cool with the water/meth.

Longer post than I intended, any help is appreciated.

 

Mine is cold after spraying.

 

ok so ive been thinking about adding meth lately.....but you are saying that i dont need a tune...but its best for me to tune....
well in my case i was having some trouble tuning for WOT....it would lean out to about 12.8 by about 5.8krpm...now if i add meth into this equation and i dont tune for it, it should richen my mix up by about .7-1 point. Which would put me at about 12.0 or so...which is still a bit lean...i havent retuned yet but im working on it...but if i tune for it...i would see something better where i can actually take advantage of my 7.5krpm redline...is this correct?
btw im an LS with Turbo, built head, cams, forged pistons/rods....and im planning on making at least 300whp
now my other question is
where would i hook the nozzle up, is it the same as the s/c guys that hook it up before the TB?