Forced Induction Turbos/Superchargers

07 Cobalt SS/SC Performance Question.

Old Jun 18, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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I suppose I'll look into it. It's just a lightly modded daily an if this helps prolong the life of the components then I'll look into it.

Also, after a 3rd time of driving the car in the rain. I've now thrown CEL's each f*cking time! So I'm just going back to the stock intake w/ a K&N filter. It's not often I do this, but Hockeyman, you seem to be right on this. I'd like NOT to have my car acting up just because of rain, an I didn't seem to notice much from the intake at all.
Just trying to help, my friend. You've been receiving plenty of good advice in this thread.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 01:31 AM
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I appreciate it, sometimes I can be thick headed.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 01:36 AM
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my stock clutch lasted 70k miles. my act lasted 30k.

they hold great for a little while
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 01:53 AM
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Methanol injection

For mild setups on 91-93 octane.

50/50 mixture
3.0/2.9 pulley = 3gph nozzle
2.8 pulley = 5gph
2.7 = 7gph
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 02:30 AM
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I've learned so much just by reading! Their is so much useful info, subed just in case I get a supercharged ss (lookin for a turboed one)
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:08 AM
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I've learned so much just by reading! Their is so much useful info, subed just in case I get a supercharged ss (lookin for a turboed one)





















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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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^^ but for reals, this is a very helpful thread if i decide to go this route
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tyler.frederick23
^^ but for reals, this is a very helpful thread if i decide to go this route
Sure is!!

You have some of the best SS/SC brains giving out info in this thread
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
Methanol injection
For mild setups on 91-93 octane.

50/50 mixture
3.0/2.9 pulley = 3gph nozzle
2.8 pulley = 5gph
2.7 = 7gph
2.9" Pulley
Duel Pass Plate
OTTP (add on) Stage 1 Heat Exchanger
*aside from other mods done already*

Not so sure about using Methanol on my daily driver as it would just add more to what I would have to check on it on a regular basis. I'm using Methanol on my S10, but that's going to be moving WAY more units of air!

Originally Posted by southal cobalt
my stock clutch lasted 70k miles. my act lasted 30k.
they hold great for a little while
How good are you with a clutch?! I suck with a clutch (speed shifting) but from off the line, I DO NOT like going over 1250 before being off the clutch peddle all together (yeah, you'd hate me in stop/go traffic and yes I kill it often - keep laughing!). I'm pretty sure it still has the stock clutch in it at 121800 miles. As I have an entire service history that includes everything down to the electric steering pump recall and replacing a turn signal bulb at the dealership. An there's nothing about the clutch, ALTHOUGH when I first got the car I was goofing off and jumped into it in 2nd gear and it did slip. But I just babied it since, and after a couple months of granny driving, it doesn't seem to do it if I do a quick 1 > 2 shift or 5 > 2 shift @ 60 to get around someone in traffic. But I try not to do this as I don't want to burn the clutch up and leave myself/car stranded in the middle of no where. I'll wait until I get the new clutch setup in.

So only 30k on a clutch?! Which ACT clutch setup did you use? Did you use a factory/aftermarket pressure plate, and did you use one of the puck style clutches?

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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You can purchase a low level indicator
If your really ****, just pop the cap and check the level. AIS methanol kits come with a trunk mounted 3 gallon tank.

Every oil change, clean the filter in the nozzle.

Very low maintenance
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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If you get a new clutch get the GMPP clutch AKA LSJ Upgrade from Crate Engine Depot. Super cheap, holds way more power than yours, and feels very similar to stock.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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^^agreed 100%
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hockeyman
^^agreed 100%
I also agree.

I have no clutch issues yet, but once I do it will be GMPP all the way!!
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by footballplaya3k
If you get a new clutch get the GMPP clutch AKA LSJ Upgrade from Crate Engine Depot. Super cheap, holds way more power than yours, and feels very similar to stock.
Just looked up the price, it said $270 + shipping. I paid just a hair over this for all three parts. So I'm not doing to bad. Paid 130 for pressure plate off Amazon, 140 for clutch from ACT and 70 for slave cylinder/throw out bearing from StockWiseAuto. Those were prices with shipping for a little more aggressive clutch. So not to bad, then I went ahead and spent the money on a lighter weight flywheel and just ordered some ARP bolts for the flywheel > crank.

Put the stock intake back on with a K&N, car seems to like it way better than the other intake.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
You can purchase a low level indicator
If your really ****, just pop the cap and check the level. AIS methanol kits come with a trunk mounted 3 gallon tank.

Every oil change, clean the filter in the nozzle.

Very low maintenance
THIS!

i hadn't checked my nozzle the other day since i installed the kit back in january. it was all gunked up

a little light cleaning with a rag and some throttle body cleaner pretty much cleared it out.

overall i'm loving the meth setup. granted i spend $10 a week for the meth the cooling benefits and power are 'worth it'. if i could get e85 though id rather go that route.

all pink about it

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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HopnDude
Just looked up the price, it said $270 + shipping. I paid just a hair over this for all three parts. So I'm not doing to bad. Paid 130 for pressure plate off Amazon, 140 for clutch from ACT and 70 for slave cylinder/throw out bearing from StockWiseAuto. Those were prices with shipping for a little more aggressive clutch. So not to bad, then I went ahead and spent the money on a lighter weight flywheel and just ordered some ARP bolts for the flywheel > crank.

Put the stock intake back on with a K&N, car seems to like it way better than the other intake.
Good to hear!
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HopnDude
Just looked up the price, it said $270 + shipping. I paid just a hair over this for all three parts. So I'm not doing to bad. Paid 130 for pressure plate off Amazon, 140 for clutch from ACT and 70 for slave cylinder/throw out bearing from StockWiseAuto. Those were prices with shipping for a little more aggressive clutch. So not to bad, then I went ahead and spent the money on a lighter weight flywheel and just ordered some ARP bolts for the flywheel > crank.

Put the stock intake back on with a K&N, car seems to like it way better than the other intake.
I know there have been some fitment issues with the ARP Flywheel bolts and certain clutches. OEM flywheel bolts are always recommended. Did you get a Fidanza flywheel? I really like mine, feels awesome.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HopnDude
Will this ruin any/all daily driving abilities?! I don't wan to get to extreme with it.

IF I were to do the 2.8 (where would I find a 4 bolt pulley) and what injectors (for direct replacement).

Also, what about the electronic/vacuum controlled cutout? Won't this block the access boost pressure until it's tuned for the pulley?

My clutch setup will probably only be good for up to 300whp;
ACT Lightweight Flywheel
ACT 6 puck ceramic sprung clutch
Exedy OEM style Pressure Plate

I was thinking more along the lines, if anything, a water methanol injection setup similar to my current project build. But not as much of it. So that under boost, it I can cool temps a little, as well modify timing a bit more on the tables.

But which would be the safer bet?!
A) 2.8" pulley + Larger Injectors OR B) Water Methanol Injection

Like I said, NOT looking to make a race car. Just a backup daily/weekend fun car.

ALSO!!!!!!!

There's the cooling system aspect. Whats this 2 pass cooler thing I've read about? Should I DO this to make sure I don't run into any issues!
I drive a 300whp cobalt everyday with no real issues. I think ur safe lol
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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I know there have been some fitment issues with the ARP Flywheel bolts and certain clutches. OEM flywheel bolts are always recommended. Did you get a Fidanza flywheel? I really like mine, feels awesome.
I ordered the ACT Clutch and ACT Flywheel at the same time.
ACT Clutch PN 6228222
ACT Flywheel PN 600595

I wasn't so sure about doing the aluminum flywheel w/ replaceable contact surface. Main reason is that I wasn't sure how good/bad the heat transfer/dissipation would be, that and I'm not going to be racing it. So I just got this one.

QUESTION; Is the extended heat exchanger worth while for a 2.9" pulley? I have a dual pass intercooler plate right now, replaced the heat exchanger pump, and am looking at OTTP's Stage 1 Heat Exchanger PN OTTP-HE-KIT. It's a little larger than ZZP's for 3/4 the price of ZZP's.

Core Dimensions;
OTTP 28" x 7" x 2 5/8"
ZZP 28" x 6.5" x 2.25"
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by HopnDude
I ordered the ACT Clutch and ACT Flywheel at the same time.
ACT Clutch PN 6228222
ACT Flywheel PN 600595

I wasn't so sure about doing the aluminum flywheel w/ replaceable contact surface. Main reason is that I wasn't sure how good/bad the heat transfer/dissipation would be, that and I'm not going to be racing it. So I just got this one.

QUESTION; Is the extended heat exchanger worth while for a 2.9" pulley? I have a dual pass intercooler plate right now, replaced the heat exchanger pump, and am looking at OTTP's Stage 1 Heat Exchanger PN OTTP-HE-KIT. It's a little larger than ZZP's for 3/4 the price of ZZP's.

Core Dimensions;
OTTP 28" x 7" x 2 5/8"
ZZP 28" x 6.5" x 2.25"
I've been running the OTTP one since 2010. Works great.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by HopnDude
I ordered the ACT Clutch and ACT Flywheel at the same time.
ACT Clutch PN 6228222
ACT Flywheel PN 600595

I wasn't so sure about doing the aluminum flywheel w/ replaceable contact surface. Main reason is that I wasn't sure how good/bad the heat transfer/dissipation would be, that and I'm not going to be racing it. So I just got this one.

QUESTION; Is the extended heat exchanger worth while for a 2.9" pulley? I have a dual pass intercooler plate right now, replaced the heat exchanger pump, and am looking at OTTP's Stage 1 Heat Exchanger PN OTTP-HE-KIT. It's a little larger than ZZP's for 3/4 the price of ZZP's.

Core Dimensions;
OTTP 28" x 7" x 2 5/8"
ZZP 28" x 6.5" x 2.25"
Careful with the ARP flywheel bolts. I'd have a set of stock bolts around for backup. Not sure how they fit with the ACT, but seems to be hit or miss with other clutches.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...-bolts-221165/
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/driv...single-260407/
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 10:59 AM
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I've been running the OTTP one since 2010. Works great.
I also have the OTTP H/E and it does work great. Good fitment.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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Okay so OTTP it is!

Also, about the ARP bolts. I went to the dealership here local to me. Had them print out the spec sheet on the bolts after being told $6 a bolt! Went back on here, looked around on the net an came across the above link about the ARP bolts (same thread/design) as the Toyota 2.0. I'll have to check and see if I need to do anything to make sure they clear.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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A buddy of mine had clearance issues, he didn't realize it until the car was completely put back together...then everything had to be taken off again when we realized the car had no gears. $6 a bolt doesn't seem too bad now.
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I have the ACT GM11-HDSS kit and used stock bolts. Pricey, but how many times do you take the clutch out?
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