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Old 10-16-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 08BlackSS/TC
probably 290hp and 310-315tq..basically what they're doing is tuning the car for more PSI and those calibration sensors SHOULD be removing the 22.5 PSI limiter
That's what I was expecting... That seems pretty damn sufficient for me... (At least from just a GM tune).....
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Originally Posted by 08BlackSS/TC
probably 290hp and 310-315tq..basically what they're doing is tuning the car for more PSI and those calibration sensors SHOULD be removing the 22.5 PSI limiter
HP is 315 @ 4800
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Originally Posted by Smallywood
HP is 315 @ 4800
I know that the prospect of the stage kit has some solid evidence leading us to believe it might happen, but where is everyone getting these HP figures?

Is there any real documentation backing these figures up or is it just "A GM tech told me..." type of deal...?
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I have found information that the kit exists, although there is no official HP rating from what I have seen. The 315 hp seems to be word of mouth.
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When I found the part numbers on the solstice forums, I went to the dealership and they contacted GMPD and let me talk to them. I gave them the part numbers and they confirmed the kits were coming and that the LNF manual transmission kit was 315 @ 4800 and the automatic transmission (HHR) was 290 @ 5200. GMPD actually confirmed every part and calibration number to be valid with a release date of spring. I don't know who leaked the numbers or how they got out but they definately exist...
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Originally Posted by Smallywood
HP is 315 @ 4800
That means it'll also be making 345 tq...and running out of steam way earlier than it should. Interesting numbers indeed.
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
That means it'll also be making 345 tq...and running out of steam way earlier than it should. Interesting numbers indeed.
4800rpm's? I don't know, I'd rather see it make 315hp / (345tq) @ 4800rpm's rather than later on the torque curve myself...
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what about intake, dp, exhaust? anything else likely to be released from gm with or before this kit, or maybe ever? I just want to keep my warrenty! lol like others do
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Originally Posted by WaRRioR-StaTuS
what about intake, dp, exhaust? anything else likely to be released from gm with or before this kit, or maybe ever? I just want to keep my warrenty! lol like others do
no word at all yet for that stuff but i'm assuming at SEMA they will release an intake/clutch/stage kit...........dunno bout exhaust, i sure hope so.
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Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC
no word at all yet for that stuff but i'm assuming at SEMA they will release an intake/clutch/stage kit...........dunno bout exhaust, i sure hope so.
What makes you think that? Sounds like SWAG to me...

The only concrete lead out there is this tune and manifold sensors. Other than that, it is ALL speculation.
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Originally Posted by TrevMo
What makes you think that? Sounds like SWAG to me...

The only concrete lead out there is this tune and manifold sensors. Other than that, it is ALL speculation.
GM=FAIL if they do not release a stronger clutch with the tune.........look at how many vendors have now said with a tune on the dyno they notice the clutch slipping already.........GM will be replacing alot of clutches under warrenty with this tune of theirs if a stronger clutch isn't used...........
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Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC
GM=FAIL if they do not release a stronger clutch with the tune.........look at how many vendors have now said with a tune on the dyno they notice the clutch slipping already.........GM will be replacing alot of clutches under warrenty with this tune of theirs if a stronger clutch isn't used...........
Exactly...which is why I'm surprised that someone's thinking they'll up the torque output from 260 to at least 345 with the "stage" kit. I'd think they'd go more for top end without affecting the peak torque output too much in the name of drivetrain preservation.
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Originally Posted by 1WhiteSSTC
GM=FAIL if they do not release a stronger clutch with the tune.........look at how many vendors have now said with a tune on the dyno they notice the clutch slipping already.........GM will be replacing alot of clutches under warrenty with this tune of theirs if a stronger clutch isn't used...........
arent clutches not covered because theyre a "wear item"?
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Originally Posted by 80vetteL82
arent clutches not covered because theyre a "wear item"?
you are correct
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Not Entirely True, my buddy that wors at the Dealership I bought mine at beats the evr-loving **** out of his car, and he started having Tranny issues at about 5 thousand miles. He has wbout 7 on it now, and his manager told him he would warranty just this once, and I believe they are covered for 5k miles.

I could be wrong, but I have heard they are covered up to 5k.

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People get the whole "wear item" coverage thing confused easily...just because they're wear items, doesn't mean they're not covered in the case they turn out defective. Yes, the clutch is not part of the 5 year / 100k powertrain warranty because it likely won't last that long, but if it breaks or wears prematurely due to a defect in workmanship, it will be covered to a certain extent. Most dealerships will honor it up to 1 year / 12k miles, but of course some will fight it if they think the car has been abused.
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
People get the whole "wear item" coverage thing confused easily...just because they're wear items, doesn't mean they're not covered in the case they turn out defective. Yes, the clutch is not part of the 5 year / 100k powertrain warranty because it likely won't last that long, but if it breaks or wears prematurely due to a defect in workmanship, it will be covered to a certain extent. Most dealerships will honor it up to 1 year / 12k miles, but of course some will fight it if they think the car has been abused.
Now just think what would happen to a stock ss/tc clutch after 12k miles if the tune was put on it immediately after buying the cobalt if not at the same time?? I bet lotta money that by 12k miles or sooner that driver is gunna notice the clutch slipping and try and get it done under warrenty........this is all IMO, lol pls don't take it too literally
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Its coming, I confirmed it today my uncle (works for GM) looked into. Don't know when the release day is exactly, I can't Wait

Originally Posted by Smallywood
When I found the part numbers on the solstice forums, I went to the dealership and they contacted GMPD and let me talk to them. I gave them the part numbers and they confirmed the kits were coming and that the LNF manual transmission kit was 315 @ 4800 and the automatic transmission (HHR) was 290 @ 5200. GMPD actually confirmed every part and calibration number to be valid with a release date of spring. I don't know who leaked the numbers or how they got out but they definately exist...
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Originally Posted by Cyrusthevirus
Its coming, I confirmed it today my uncle (works for GM) looked into. Don't know when the release day is exact, I can't Wait
How about you probe your uncle some more...........
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GM will not release a product that the car is not capable of handling. It just doesn't make business sense.
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Im in dealerworld right now searching for the bulletin ID number and can't find anything. Ive searched HHR's Cobalt's and solstice still nothing yet.
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Im in dealerworld right now searching for the bulletin ID number and can't find anything. Ive searched HHR's Cobalt's and solstice still nothing yet.
its not that close to being released yet
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Im in dealerworld right now searching for the bulletin ID number and can't find anything. Ive searched HHR's Cobalt's and solstice still nothing yet.
It's a SPO Bulletin #ACC08-030 that is archived now. There hasn't been any new ones since the original yet.
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One of the part numbers is in the system though I had the parts guy confirm its existence as a "08 SS/TC performance upgrade".
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Originally Posted by malachii
One of the part numbers is in the system though I had the parts guy confirm its existence as a "08 SS/TC performance upgrade".
which one?


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