widedand is always good to have

your sensor has to be cut from your stock cam and press in in your new cam. you have to be precise more than a sniper

 

I think I am going to get the AEM wideband.

As for the cam sensor, I'm sure a race-shop would be able to do it.

 

do you know one.

innovate does good wideband too.

 

talk to vince, he said at one point that he should be able to tune it out...not sure about it though...

 

vince has tuned one. but i told me that he has cam sensor correlation trouble
i already ask him if he was able to delete that sensor:

TFT dit (17:05) :
i am not totally sure about this
there was one 2007 2.2 we did stage cams on

he needs someone to try it and look like you gonna be guinea-pig.

but i m sure you wont try hit for the R&D of the 07+

 

That would be sick.

I'm going to stay away from the wideband. He just data logs everything anyway. All a wideband is, is a light-show, for us anyway.

Waste of $200.

 

more or less, it can still clue you into problems

narrow band is nothing but a light show

 

Yeah, I just don't foresee a problem with N/A, there is really no way you can lean out or anything bad unless you got a **** tune.. Or if you tune yourself, I'd get one then. It mostly happens with boosted cars, where they worry about being lean.

You know what I mean..? It's not like everything is fine then OOPS, running lean.. Doesn't really work like that.

 

Just a little FYI.. Here is what Vince from Trifecta thinks of the whole 4-2-1 vs 4-1 thing.

"If you’re asking my opinion as a professional tuner, I’d recommend the 4-2-1 for street use. You will have broader power gains across the RPM range which is more usable on the street. You don’t spend all day at 5000RPM or above unless you are racing it on a track."

 

I do
for the cam, since your pwer band is already so high it makes sense to have the 4-1 (esp if you rev out all the time freeway use and ****) but for mostly street use on the non cammed 4-2-1 makes sense...give you the power more where you will most use it

 

1. its true but when you need you will have. i prefere less usable on the street but when a honshit wants try me = bye my chummy

2. that me i need a 4-1

 

See below.

That's exactly what I think. I'd rather have it up top where I need it. The HP/TQ is there with the 4-1, it just builds slower, and doesn't peak at 5k like the 4-2-1.

I understand the whole "more power where you use it most" thing, but when you need that up top power, remember that you traded it for your low-end/mid-range.

Plus the 2.4 intake manifold and 2.4 TB bump up your power-band also. I can see how it makes sense to get the 4-2-1 because you have so much high-end already, but at the same time it doesn't make sense.

 

that would work, except the 4-2-1 actually gives you LESS up top then nothing haha

 

I don't get what ya mean?

Anyway, I got some dynos from Trifecta of a bone stock Solstice with Clear Image's 4-2-1 vs 4-1, and to my view, the 4-1 beats the 4-2-1. Even down low and mid range.

http://www.trifectaperformance.com/t...derComparo.pdf

 

a solstice lost hp and tq due to his drive shaft.

number should be better with a traction car than a rear end drive


@tom
did you dyno on that on?

 

Either way, the 4-1 still beats the 4-2-1. Cams or not.

 

yes you are right

 

Hucker, may I ask how you fit drag bags with a strut in the way? I don't see why you would put them in the back.. Lol.

 

you use them so you dont get "squat" where when you launch your back end drops, transfering weight from the front, and causing less traction and tire spin off the line, they go in the back, inside the springs to do this, not up front. struts arent in the way

 

totally a failure in my case
this wilson is just good to be back to walmart
may be it was the quality od this wilson
60psi is to much according to mr wilson

 

Makes sense. I knew they didn't go in the front, strut is obviously in the way.. I just didn't think it would help that much in the rear.

HAHA! NICE!

 

my 14,2 was done w/o my dragbag

only pro-kit in front and stock coil in rear
it look like to :

 

mine looked like a cat in heat

 

inthis case

mine looked like a cat on attack mod.

yours is to passive cat lol miaouuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh

 

at least mine isnt tupperwear