Bluelightning's Build V 2.0
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Ohhhhh no you don't get away that easy. I gonna be callin your ass up to come pull wrenches 
EXTREMELY!!! Lol
EXTREMELY!!! Lol
Last edited by Bluelightning; Dec 3, 2012 at 04:13 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
So I'm getting everything I line to get this motor together. Hopefully in one shot without needing more parts (god willing). Is getting the timing chain set from CED worth it? My stuff now has 100,000 kms on it. But wondering if its worth the $223? If anything I was just going to put a new tensioner in.
So I'm getting everything I line to get this motor together. Hopefully in one shot without needing more parts (god willing). Is getting the timing chain set from CED worth it? My stuff now has 100,000 kms on it. But wondering if its worth the $223? If anything I was just going to put a new tensioner in.
Come to think of it, my car had 6X,XXX miles when it stopped. Can't remember the exact since its been over 18 months.
After having a guide and tensioner break on my L61, I would at a minimum get a new tensioner, chain and the two lower camshaft timing guides. Should be a little bit cheaper than the full kit and it'll be a little extra piece of mind.
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Hes more saying if your going to spend the money on the build, might as well replace the little things as well not only for piece of mind, but also mileage wear and tear, and while your in the motor whynot? Not pathetic of GM, more of smart to do as a builder.
Drag the car to mechanical over revs when down shifting with little or no skill.
Now you step up and call it pathetic that the front drive assembly for the dohc motor should be replaced in a rebuild ? For a measly 223.00 complete with everything you need?
Go buy a Honda civic and replace the waterpump, drive belts and all that stuff, for more money every 40k miles.
weird.
end rant.
sorry. merry christmas
I agree with Mr.Powell. I would replace every part and gasket that is vital to the motor running good. Just my 2 cents.
Buy the damn timing kit! lol it'll put you at ease if you start having doubts if you should have replaced those parts or not! lol
Buy the damn timing kit! lol it'll put you at ease if you start having doubts if you should have replaced those parts or not! lol
some days i dont get it. Some folks buy a car; beat the crap out of it, rev it way higher than it needs to be revved, especially with an M62 blower that goes home at 6500 rpm.
Drag the car to mechanical over revs when down shifting with little or no skill.
Now you step up and call it pathetic that the front drive assembly for the dohc motor should be replaced in a rebuild ? For a measly 223.00 complete with everything you need?
Go buy a Honda civic and replace the waterpump, drive belts and all that stuff, for more money every 40k miles.
weird.
end rant.
sorry. merry christmas
Drag the car to mechanical over revs when down shifting with little or no skill.
Now you step up and call it pathetic that the front drive assembly for the dohc motor should be replaced in a rebuild ? For a measly 223.00 complete with everything you need?
Go buy a Honda civic and replace the waterpump, drive belts and all that stuff, for more money every 40k miles.
weird.
end rant.
sorry. merry christmas
Just saying!
When building a motor you leave no stone unturned. Guides and the tenshioner should be replaced. The motors open and it's worth the investment, safety of motor, and the piece of mind. If you don't you'll be paying for it later and wishing you did. Do it right the first time. It might cost more now. It will pay off.
I call it pathetic because even the timing chain tensioner can fail by 60k. I call it pathetic because apparently even the guides can go too. I call it pathetic because I am one of many that have had this failure and guess what? I still have the stock pulley. I don't beat the **** out of my cars and I know where manufacturers fail. If I wanted a Honda I would have one. My SR20 motor was far more stout than this LSJ when you compare the two chain setups. My SRT has a belt system that has proven to be more reliable then this. BMW uses plastic impellers on their water pumps too. Who gives a **** dude, when a manufacturer makes something that is crappy, they should be called out on it. Like the recall for the electric power steering.
Just saying!
Just saying!
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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
When building a motor you leave no stone unturned. Guides and the tenshioner should be replaced. The motors open and it's worth the investment, safety of motor, and the piece of mind. If you don't you'll be paying for it later and wishing you did. Do it right the first time. It might cost more now. It will pay off.
I'm a small engine mechanic by trade and when rebuilding a motorcycle, atv or dirtbike changing a timing chain and guides isn't common at all. I do realize this is a different animal though.
Last edited by Bluelightning; Dec 28, 2012 at 10:49 AM.
It's not common for the chain to snap, but the point is you have close to 70k on the parts roughly. Timing chain is recommend to be looked at or replaced at 100k. It would just be Practical and wise to just replace it all. Tenshioner for sure for it was revised. It's worth doing to protect your investment in the build. It's just best practice when building a motor. When in doubt replace it out.
When will you start rebuilding her?
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I honestly agree with you. Hell I rebuild bike motors that spin to 15,000 rpm without replacing any of that. Buuuuut on the other end I'm dropping a good chunk of change on this build and would hate to see it go down because of something stupid. Piece of mind as everyone is saying. But will be replacing the assembly. I'm still collecting parts lol. ZZP actually hasn't sent my Cams and NBS out yet! They're still waiting on their shipment of cams. Hopefully my motor will be shipped out in the next few weeks
Last edited by Bluelightning; Dec 28, 2012 at 11:43 PM.
I honestly agree with you. Hell I rebuild bike motors that spin to 15,000 rpm without replacing any of that. Buuuuut on the other end I'm dropping a good chunk of change on this build and would hate to see it go down because of something stupid. Piece of mind as everyone is saying. But will be replacing the assembly. I'm still collecting parts lol. ZZP actually hasn't sent my Cams and NBS out yet! They're still waiting on their shipment of cams. Hopefully my motor will be shipped out in the next few weeks 

Hurry up already before I regret selling mine because you hit 400WHP with that TVS.. lol
I kid, I kid..But seriously...lol



