ebristol

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How do they plan on managing the second set of injectors?

SKY888

I already mentioned it long time ago.....its burried somewhere on this thread.


anyways, I'll be using split second for managing the port injectors....and using a secondary tank as well.

Leafydialupking

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using a secondary tank as well? BTW thats the same controller that hahn uses on their port fueler.

ebristol

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And I was probably the person who asked!

Cool beans.

I have been looking for something for this just in case I ever needed it.

SKY888

yup.....using a secondary tank.

I dont want to tap from the main line.

also, having the secondary tank will give me some fueling option just in case I want to spray C16/meth..... during higher rpms.......where these secondary injectors will spray anyways.

So during normal driving, I'll be only using regular gas from the main gas tank.

This way, it will be more affordable.....lol

SKY888

My only issue with that photo is.....how the injectors spray.

I like the injectors to be in an angle.....to avoid fuel pooling

Leafydialupking

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At the air flow levels that you'd be using the secondary injectors, puddling is basically a non issue. I'd rather has secondary injectors further up stream or angle pointing against flow though, for better atomization.

SKY888

It might be a non-issue.....or it might be an issue.......nobody knows until they try it.

I rather be safe than sorry with my set-up and do preventative measures from the start.



going against flow is very interesting. But if you angle it and air is rushing through....dont you think that it will cause pooling at the bottom part of the runner since all the fuel will tend to go down since they're being pushed by the incoming air? I don't know....I need to try it and experiment and see what it does.

Leafydialupking

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Its hard to think about. There's two ways it could go, 1 the fuel rushes against the air and slows down then flows the other way in a predictable pattern, there is a time of zero velocity for the fuel where some could drop out. Or the extra high speed difference between the fuel and air create localized zones of very fast swirling which makes the fuel pattern burst in many directions and into much smaller particles. I'm leaning towards it produces a combination of both with the 2nd being dominant.

SKY888

that's what I'm afraid of


anyways, I did mine near the chambers...in an angle....since its already a proven method.

SKY888

bellows and v-band kit (compressor) arriving this Wednesday.
As you can see, the compound set-up is a PACKAGING NIGHTMARE!







we will look for short fat radiator and custom shroud required for a v-mount Intercooler and Front Mount Intercooler. Dual Intercooler? what? what????

Sox-Fan

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Did this thread just gain 100 HP?

Chevycobaltss3

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Yummmmmmy.. four injectors .. smart man bro. You won't have a issue with fueling...

Leafydialupking

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Who is going to be tuning? The biggest issue I've had with the injector setup that you have is interfacing the factory and the port fueling setup. I know with the computers that run straight VE you can do it in excel. I know how to do all the old VE stuff with excel. But maf is pretty weird to figure with that setup and I cant imagine how hard the LNF torque based stuff is going to be to interface in excel with the port fueling stuff. Unless the tuner is just going to tune them independently. Chevycobaltss3, you've got more tuning experience than I have, any ideas on that?

SKY888

I guess, due to the loooooong build process..........and more stuff added to the build.....it decided to go up 100hp? lol

nice observation bro!


thanks James!

I'm hoping that they'll be more than enough!

SKY888

SMG will be tuning it.

I never had any issues with Fred since the beginning. He tuned my GT3582r set-up last time, and it was fine.

This will be his first time to tune this kind of compound set-up. I believe most tuners on this site never tuned this kind of set-up before anyways. So let's see what Fred can do.

BTF can also help out in tuning, since I believe, he'll deliver the kit personally. He want to make sure the kit is installed properly, and he'll video it as well. He already knows the kit inside and out...since he assembled/disassembled the kit a million of times already.

Kevin Jewer, one of the guys I mentioned on my very first post might also be a possibility. He is the most helpful guy that has his own 8 second compound set-up DSM. 80% that I know about compound is from him. He lives locally, so I can probably ask him to help out.

Plus of course, if needed, ccs3/byt/zzp/etc can take a stab on this project. I'll ask them for tuning up here in RI.....or I can bring the car to them

the port fueling will be controlled by split sec, and will be boost based just like the 5th injector. But It has a software that can be tuned independently.

Chevycobaltss3

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Yeah the four should be plenty.... If not I'm sure you could get some larger once quickly lol .

ralliartist

Kevin Jewer is bad ass. Love the fact he does it all with a DSM.

Matt M

I wouldn't word it quite like that. Having enough fuel system in no way removes the potential for issues. I am certain that it will present a whole new challenge in tuning. I'm not saying it can't be overcome, but there will be plenty of issues along the way.

Chevycobaltss3

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You know what I mean lol...... Not wanting this thread full of jibberish ...... So no arguing here lol..

Maven

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Jibberish

KnightSS/TC

Sub'd
Good luck with your set goal, waiting for the outcome/turnout

SKY888

One expensive hunk of INCONEL bellowl!

This will take care of the expansion from header to gt4294r to return tube. It's an expansion bellow for pre-turbo heat/vibration relief for the big turbo.

The main Burn's collector already has double slip (which is awesome) so that will take care of the gt2871r side of things.

Leafydialupking

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Holy crap. That is more money than some peoples whole turbo setups (the patched together ones) in your hand.

SKY888

hahaha! you're crazy!


yeah, INCONEL spd is a bit pricey....