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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Regardless, I'm gonna need something that can 400 whp on 15-17 psi.
with your build that might be possible on that turbo.. paul is totally stock engine wise.. some cams.. a ported head and a 8K rev limiter could do it .. bigolred makes like 360 on the same turbo (i think) on like 17 psi if i remember off the top of my head and he's on the stock intake manifold

now take what i'm saying with a grain of salt because i'm not the tubro guru bryan paul and a few others on the forum are but i'm just suggesting it since you're worried about spool.. paul is also on a log manifold .
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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True. I'll be using a manifold very similar to Bryans. There are some things that will help mine make more power. Like the ported head, and the turbo cams I'm getting.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
True. I'll be using a manifold very similar to Bryans. There are some things that will help mine make more power. Like the ported head, and the turbo cams I'm getting.
exactly .. your engine setup + tubular manifold will make it close ... and if i remember correctly paul see's full boost at around 3400 rpms on the hackjob log mani
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Remember Cameron's "blowers need loving, too" picture where his arm is sticking though it? I forsee him getting a turbo big enough to set up the same shot.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Remember Cameron's "blowers need loving, too" picture where his arm is sticking though it? I forsee him getting a turbo big enough to set up the same shot.
Easily!
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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paul made 440 on stock internals. your car is built. you dont needa a turbo thats gonna suck a baby in lol.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
Wasn't it like 414 whp? On like 24 psi, with 93-94 octane, in awesome weather. Keep into account, in AZ we only 91 octane, and its still shitty compared to the back east midgrade (89 octane). Also, in AZ keep in mind, the weather is tremendously hotter. During the summer, my intake air ONE temp rarely drops below 130 degrees. Thats air before the supercharger, before intercooler, thats practically ambient air temp. During winter its better, but thats still on like 3 months out of the year. Hell last week, it was like 92 degrees!!! I doubt I'll be able to run much more than 15 psi on pump gas safely. I want to make AT LEAST 400-420 whp on 91 octane, with no meth.
414whp on 21.5 psi 93 octane and 98 degrees out... get your facts straight lol.
with a ported head and cames at 22 psi should put me close to 450whp on pump if not a little more.

Originally Posted by elecblue06
he hit 440 something on 23 psi...

however i mean what that turbo is actually capable of.. i think is around 550 whp if i remember
440whp on 22.35 psi, same pump gas tune and 104 octane. turbo is good to @550whp or so at 32 psi

Originally Posted by elecblue06
with your build that might be possible on that turbo.. paul is totally stock engine wise.. some cams.. a ported head and a 8K rev limiter could do it .. bigolred makes like 360 on the same turbo (i think) on like 17 psi if i remember off the top of my head and he's on the stock intake manifold

now take what i'm saying with a grain of salt because i'm not the tubro guru bryan paul and a few others on the forum are but i'm just suggesting it since you're worried about spool.. paul is also on a log manifold .
chris (bigolred) is making 339whp on 15.65 psi on the 3071, stock intake mani (soon to be hahn) and a log mani. but that thing spools instantly

Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
True. I'll be using a manifold very similar to Bryans. There are some things that will help mine make more power. Like the ported head, and the turbo cams I'm getting.
equal length mani = faster spool... mine comes in next week and hopefully have it in before the track on the 15th, but I doubt it

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
440whp on 22.35 psi, same pump gas tune and 104 octane. turbo is good to @550whp or so at 32 psi
Can we just have a video of your car doing a 32psi pull real quick?

lulz

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
exactly .. your engine setup + tubular manifold will make it close ... and if i remember correctly paul see's full boost at around 3400 rpms on the hackjob log mani
4300 22.1 psi on doo doo shitty log cavi, hacked up crap manifold..... did I say it sucks lol. On that tubular one I should be at @3600 rpm I hope.

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Can we just have a video of your car doing a 32psi pull real quick?

lulz
I actually hit 30psi or so one night and the car shut off lol.

Originally Posted by fballman1987
paul made 440 on stock internals. your car is built. you dont needa a turbo thats gonna suck a baby in lol.
true, but is always fun to be able to lol.

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
I actually hit 30psi or so one night and the car shut off lol.
Do it again! vid or ban.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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hell no, the sounds that came out of my car scared me man. remember still on the stock motor..... it doesn't like that lol
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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So if I do the same turbo setup as your car, I should be able to make the same amount of power? With spool of like 3600-3700 rpm?
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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pretty much, my turbo is a bit laggy for some's taste.... but for me it's awesome. I'd go with a full T$ setup though for big power.
I'm running the T3/T04E HiFi version of it. 90% the efficieancy of a full 60-1 but capable of almost the same power, with faster spool.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
So if I do the same turbo setup as your car, I should be able to make the same amount of power? With spool of like 3600-3700 rpm?
seems to me you should theoretically make more whp at the same PSI same turbo since your engine flows so much better than a stock engine... right?
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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that he would
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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soo i wasn't crazy.. got a few numbers mixed up but i wasn't too far off.. lol .. got a bit disyllabic on some things lol

but it's not my build lol .. but yea what i said then paul corrected me on ...
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
true, but is always fun to be able to lol.
thats true, but i think they may miss the baby once its sucked in lol.

good to hear about laying down 339 without the hahn mani, ive really been thinking and thats what i want is the 3071.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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he made 396whp on 21.50 psi but it died at the track (either due to the stock mani or the 50 bottles on nitrous he ran through it)
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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I'm going with a GT60. Never been a 1600 hp Ecotec, its time for one!
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
I'm going with a GT60. Never been a 1600 hp Ecotec, its time for one!
holy, now that will suck in a baby lol
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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will spool at... never rpm lol.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
will spool at... never rpm lol.
No way! The GM race ecotecs spool a GT4718 at like 6700 rpm. So a GT60 would be like 8000 rpmish. Totally do able! With stock pcm I'd have power from 8000-8200 rpm! It'd be like a pro charger set up!
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
Remember Cameron's "blowers need loving, too" picture where his arm is sticking though it? I forsee him getting a turbo big enough to set up the same shot.
not my arm, but you get the idea.




Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
pretty much, my turbo is a bit laggy for some's taste.... but for me it's awesome. I'd go with a full T$ setup though for big power.
I'm running the T3/T04E HiFi version of it. 90% the efficieancy of a full 60-1 but capable of almost the same power, with faster spool.
who was the baller with the T4 hotside and the legit as **** 60-1....

hmmmm....







muwhahahah.

i picked my **** for a reason.

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 02:15 AM
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What the ****???
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Talked to the guys at turbonetics today. They are gonna set me up with a turbo spacifically for my ****. Said I should make 400 whp on pump gas, and spool at <3500 rpm



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