Can anyone give me an estimate or a guess to what levels of boost it will take to obtain 450 450 on a dynojet on pump gas? I think it might be around the 27psi mark, so I might get the ported head cams combo so I can make this power on maybe 23psi? Can anyone take a shot at this?

 

last i heard people were makin over 420 with 24psi on only big turb kits with valve springs

 

hopefully your not using empire motors inc from el paso texas to do your casting hahah bad luck with those guys

 

ZZP Builds The Best LNF Mod Ever!

But you can't have it for at least 6 months...

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5692716-post477.html

Still Vaporware it looks like. My quote in that post was over 4 months ago. I've put a few thousand miles on my Werks EFR kit since then.

 

 

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Geez dude, get it right...

 

eh?

 

Lols.... vaporware .. i like it.

 

Are you trying to imply that ZZP will never actually produce this product or that they put the word out way to early to deter people from going with other options while they work on their product?

 

Do we really have to dig up the cookie pic again?

When you make the same power on your EFR that we make on the stock turbo, then maybe you will have a reason to talk so much ****.

 

^^ i dunno why everyone gives you guys crap when your trying to do cool stuff hah

 

x2. I dont know why everyone bashes them. They do nasty work and build nasty fast cars.

 

LOL!!! Nicely said!

 

it's what gmtech does .. goes around sticking his nose in everything puttin his 2 c in where it's not cared for to him his way >>>>> all it seems

 

Do we really have to dig up the cookie pic again?

When you make the same power on your EFR that we make on the stock turbo, then maybe you will have a reason to talk so much ****.


Bump No very nicely said makes a great sig also lol.

 

They make good stuff but by the time your done with going the Werks kit route you will have spent something like idk 3500-4000. ZZP's should come in at around half that or a tad more than half. Plus a heck of a lot simpler install with a "sleeper" look

 

Lol. Love you too Matt.

So you talking the power you quote from your magic dyno or the numbers those cars do on an impartial, unbiased dyno when the customer gets their car back? There's usually about 100hp difference between those two. Hey guys, why do you think ZZP makes claims like what Matt just said above? Ever notice how ABSOLUTELY SURE they are that they make more power than anyone else? It's because they know they can manipulate the HP numbers higher than anyone else. Anyone that's that sure their HP numbers are higher than ANYONE else's is either ignorant or ???? I might know a little more about what goes on at ZZP than you might think.


Exactly. This is the part I had a problem with. You guys at ZZP have got all these guys holding their breath because of this thread. How long will it actually be before you have a working kit on the road? I'm betting a few of the guys that first saw this thread won't even own a car with an LNF by the time you have it ready for sale. Maybe YOU shouldn't have been so cocky with your title of the thread and the fact you had no idea of when you would actually be able to provide the "Best Mod Ever" to these members and customers. That's exactly the definition of "Vaporware", it's when the software or tech companies release information on their amazing new software or hardware, when they aren't actually even close to having a product to release. What it does is make all those hungry buyers wait for something that never comes to market or isn't what it was originally billed as.

You guys can call me whatever you want, I couldn't care less. I call 'em like I see 'em and nothing I've said is BS. It's either my opinion or it's fact. Take it or leave it.

 

other kits can make the same power and they are already out. if any of you find a dynoshop who has a good relation with borg warner you can get this housing custom ordered yourself. it will take alot of tugging and prying but still it is possible to get ahold of. any of the kits are going to be great.

the only thing i agree on here is it was info released just over 5 months ago and i was estimated about half year or so relveal so this is either about a month away from relveal or you did give some people pretty high hopes for a good period of time. i still do like zzp so dont think im here to hate them.

 

If its not out by income tax, then ZZP will have missed out on alot of money with this EFR hybrid.

I would say the majority of people in this thread are betting on income tax and this EFR hybrid turbo being available by that point in time, if this isn't available, they will be looking else where.

 

I freggin hope this is out by next March....if not that will be some major bs

 

Im happy theres a time period lol ive had time to buy rims,coils,odd ****.....Still looking forward to this kit and still the only kit I would trust...Cant wait to see the outcome.

 

I know this September date was thrown around somewhere in the 22 pages, don't remember if that was ZZP or the forum trying to guess it's release.

Can someone from ZZP give a release date estimate yet?

GMTech, if you are going to throw these claims that a vendor is outright lying about their dyno numbers, do you at least have some evidence to back this up?

 

What were your dyno numbers on pump gas only? I know a few people running the EFR and all seem to be pretty close and i know you guys are running your head/cam combo so that helps a bunch.

I have worked all the bugs out of mine finally but i'm out of fuel pressure on full E85 and can only hold 50% throttle and it still goes in reduce power from low fuel rail pressure Did you guys come out with the secondary injector kit yet or know of a way i can get this straightened out? On the upside I'm flowing over 50 maf lb/min @ half throttle lol so i know its gonna be a monster when running 100%

 

damn