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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 11:37 AM
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Mostly because I've been having electrical issues, and I've replaced most of my grounds, and cleaned up most of the wiring, and also fired the parts cannon, including new Opel injectors and additional rounds of ZZP tunes. When I did my clutch job which involves removing the the fuse box, once I was finished and put everything back on, the car was effectively dead. The GM tech told me that there's a connectivity problem with it after muxing with it several times before he was able to seat it with dielectric grease fully.

I'll start (from cold) as running very lean and eventually running full blown rich, with the occasional P0101. I've replaced almost every sensor under the hood with the proper OEM, no vacuum or boost leaks.

**** this is starting to sound very similar.
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 01:12 PM
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So over my lunch, messed around more,

Plugged in gauge scanner, wiggled it around, car goes haywire.
Plugged in hptuners scanner (mind you, not even with my laptop plugged in on the other end) car goes haywire.
*nothing plugged in to scanner, wiggle dlc, nothing happens. Which makes sense in a way, without a scnnaer plugged in, the DLC is kinda of an inactive dead end, but the moment something is plugged into, a bad connection can be triggered by the system.

So I went back underneath the dlc , looks like two of my new connections were weak and I could pull apart, fixed those up and ran out of time.. Plugged in each scanner after really quickly, wiggled and nothing happened.

Will have to try more tonight.
Would be insane if it was still DLC, all the connections feel solid now, soldered, heat shrink and can't pull apart, fingers crossed
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 01:13 PM
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Out of curiosity ProfDNS, have you ever had a remote start installed or removed the insulation/ carpet during the summer?
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 01:55 PM
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Out of curiosity ProfDNS, have you ever had a remote start installed or removed the insulation/ carpet during the summer?
No to both. At most, I've removed the back seat to lay down some sound deadener.
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 05:27 PM
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Think I might tear up my interceptor gauge cable, look for a break under the wiring sheath.
Over 6 years of use it developed a bend, and it seems touching that bend sets off the car.

While issues have been observed with other scanners, perhaps that was just the loose DLC wiring (which has been repaired now) .
But the interceptor cable seems to be much worse.

Apart from inspecting the wiring, I could leave it unplugged. See if I still get stalls while its not plugged in...
the gauge is always plugged in, so when I do experience issues, I'm usually unplugging the interceptor and then plugging in my laptop.
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 06:54 PM
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Noting that no issues with the cable plugged in, but the moment I plug the gauge into the cable (while having a little force on the bend in the cable) it goes haywire right away.

hmmm maybe I should try this gauge and cable on a different car. See if it acts up in the exact same way, just would need to find a car….
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 07:15 PM
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A gauge by itself shouldn't interrupt anything unless you have a couple breaks in the live power wires which are touching other connections or arcing out.
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 07:49 PM
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Correct was just taking note of how it was behaving.

Far more skeptical of the cable. There’s about 10 wires, only 4 are used


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Old Feb 13, 2024 | 09:03 AM
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But poop, no scanner plugged in, car still stalls after start up. So either two issues or not the problem.
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Old Feb 13, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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I think I see something interesting!!

At the start of the log, car is showing 2nd gear while in Park, as it should.
10 seconds into the log, car starts up in 1st gear and fails to hold it stalling out.
24 seconds into the log I attempt a restart, car is now in 2nd gear, starts up and runs fine.

Jan 7th log shows the exact same thing!
So why could this be happening?

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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 09:30 AM
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I think I see something interesting!!

At the start of the log, car is showing 2nd gear while in Park, as it should.
10 seconds into the log, car starts up in 1st gear and fails to hold it stalling out.
24 seconds into the log I attempt a restart, car is now in 2nd gear, starts up and runs fine.

Jan 7th log shows the exact same thing!
So why could this be happening?
Normally when this happens, it's a misalignment with the shifter itself (the selectors do get worn down over time), but with all the rest of the weirdness happening, there are gremlins lurking.
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Old Feb 14, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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Normally when this happens, it's a misalignment with the shifter itself (the selectors do get worn down over time), but with all the rest of the weirdness happening, there are gremlins lurking.
Interesting for sure.
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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So ECU is 0x7E8

u2108 and u2125 are new

Gonna do some ground work finally tomorrow, should be nice. Kinda looks like it’s the TCM taking the network down since ECU is reporting faults but the TCM did not.
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 03:04 PM
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Found a nasty ground under coolant bottle.

im all my research, it looked like there was just one ground under the coolant bottle, as I could only see one. However there was a 2nd ground on the same stud coming from the cowl so it couldn’t be seen till I removed the coolant bottle.

cleaned up negative battery terminal ground. Cleaned engine jump post.
gonna re assemble see if it fixed it
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 03:35 PM
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I think the rearward ground at G101, must’ve been PDC.
forward ground at G101 (visible) must’ve been lights/horn etc.

car started! Kinda warm out right now so perhaps not saying much. Gonna bust out the laptop scan for codes and see if I can get it act up




I re routed both ground wires there to new, higher locations so I never have to spend an hour to get to them again lol
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 07:12 PM
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U2125 took some effort to clear…
And dlc still seems slightly sensitive..

But that had to be it lmao.
Run/ crank relay was on that ground. I’m surprised it started at all..
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:48 PM
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Progress finally
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 11:25 AM
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Started 3/3 this morning now
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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Was going into town and my wideband was reading full lean, started watching narrowband and it was also reading full lean.
pulled over, scanned the car, dropped communication right away.

swapped tunes, no change. P0106

decided to go home at that point, pulled apart the car a little, Damaged my OBD port playing with the pins so I’ll have to replace that now. I just don’t get it.

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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 01:02 PM
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I overlooked them before, but the 2 cables that go to the fuse box bolt; did you clean those? And the plate that sits on it.
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:48 PM
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Cleaned those. And to update my car stalled right after startup again trying to leave work :/ fuuuuuck

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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 07:49 PM
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On the plus side my boss got caught stealing so I moved up and might just buy a winter car. Retire this thing for summer maybe
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Old Feb 27, 2024 | 08:35 AM
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Attempted to start with throttle applied this morning.

car fired and died very quick. Tried again several more times, same thing, car dies immediately.
it does not like throttle input. Might have to try swapping throttle bodies
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Old Feb 28, 2024 | 08:16 PM
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Left my car at work yesterday. Same issue today of course going home.

So my plan now, repair dlc, swap back to an LSJ throttle body, adjust the tune and try that.
that’ll rule out a bad throttle body,

then I’m gonna pull injectors, test for leaks, replace the cups, clean map.

then, maybe drop tank, inspect

work is crazy have zero time to think about this now hahah
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 08:40 AM
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Tried starting this morning with throttle to the floor.

Turns, and fires, but does not catch. Tried about 5 times.

then once starters touched throttle slightly, stalls immediately.

definetly way too much air or way too little fuel here
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